American troops may remain in Afghanistan until at least 2024

[Darth Wagtaros]

In other words a Chinese proxy.

[Ed Anger]

Maybe we can clone Dostrum.

[Valmy]

Dude, we still have troops in Germany, and it's been 68 years now.

When did the German Government ask us to leave?

[Iormlund]

The problem in Iraq (well, not the only problem) was that we turned power back over to them too quickly.

I remember the EUOT debates back in the pre-war days, and the pro-war consensus was the US would be there for a few months, couple years at the most.

[KRonn]

The problem in Iraq (well, not the only problem) was that we turned power back over to them too quickly.

I remember the EUOT debates back in the pre-war days, and the pro-war consensus was the US would be there for a few months, couple years at the most.

That's amazing that people even considered such a short time frame. Interventions are usually longer term, the messier the situation the longer term it would be. Heck, even in the Balkans there are still NATO troops in Bosnia. Given how badly Afghanistan was messed up, all the fractional fighting plus the Taliban, AQ and their allies, it should have been a given that intervention was a long term event.

[Berkut]

The problem in Iraq (well, not the only problem) was that we turned power back over to them too quickly.

I remember the EUOT debates back in the pre-war days, and the pro-war consensus was the US would be there for a few months, couple years at the most.

As a member of said pro-war consensus, you are full of shit. To be polite about it.

Nobody said the US would be out in a few months.

[The Brain]

Dude, we still have troops in Germany, and it's been 68 years now.

When did the German Government ask us to leave?

Stockholm syndrome.

[Iormlund]

The problem in Iraq (well, not the only problem) was that we turned power back over to them too quickly.

I remember the EUOT debates back in the pre-war days, and the pro-war consensus was the US would be there for a few months, couple years at the most.

As a member of said pro-war consensus, you are full of shit. To be polite about it.

Nobody said the US would be out in a few months.

Aham. I distinctly remember the argument that invasion would be cheaper than keeping forces necessary to contain Saddam stationed in the Gulf.

[Viking]

Maybe we can clone Dostrum.

Bad idea, there isn't enough whiskey and cigars in the world to supply two of them.

[Maximus]

As a member of said pro-war consensus, you are full of shit. To be polite about it.

Nobody said the US would be out in a few months.

"Nobody" is a strong word. There are morons who will say all kinds of things.

The fallacy lies in the Raztastic idea that because someone made that argument, everyone on the same "team" is responsible for it.

[derspiess]

As a member of said pro-war consensus, you are full of shit. To be polite about it.

Nobody said the US would be out in a few months.

Ditto.  Bush (OMG teh Hitlar) himself said from the beginning it would require a long commitment.

[The Brain]

As a member of said pro-war consensus, you are full of shit. To be polite about it.

Nobody said the US would be out in a few months.

Ditto.  Bush (OMG teh Hitlar) himself said from the beginning it would require a long commitment.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

[crazy canuck]

My recollection is that the pro intervention side also expressed the hope that the commitment would be made to stay after the initial military action to provide stability.

There may have been an idiot or two who thought it would be a quick operation but that would certainly have been an outlier view.

[mongers]

What exactly do we expect to happen in ten years?

Phone the Kremlin, ask for one of the soviet era janitors, they should have a pretty good idea.

Just remember the to halve the remaining time they give the regime after the superpower withdrawals.

[Berkut]

The problem in Iraq (well, not the only problem) was that we turned power back over to them too quickly.

I remember the EUOT debates back in the pre-war days, and the pro-war consensus was the US would be there for a few months, couple years at the most.

As a member of said pro-war consensus, you are full of shit. To be polite about it.

Nobody said the US would be out in a few months.

Aham. I distinctly remember the argument that invasion would be cheaper than keeping forces necessary to contain Saddam stationed in the Gulf.

lol

Way to move those goalposts.