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Started by Razgovory, October 22, 2013, 02:47:18 PM

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Admiral Yi

Simple question Raz: would cutting military pay and benefits be a bad thing or a good thing?

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
Simple question Raz: would cutting military pay and benefits be a bad thing or a good thing?
That's not a simple question :o
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Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
Simple question Raz: would cutting military pay and benefits be a bad thing or a good thing?

You are a clever one.  I think cutting pay is fine at times, but not benefits or pensions.
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Quote from: Razgovory on October 22, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
You are a clever one.  I think cutting pay is fine at times, but not benefits or pensions.

When is it fine?  OK in the morning, bad at night?  Or good when Democrats are in favor, bad when Republicans are in favor?

Caliga

Quote from: Barrister on October 22, 2013, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 22, 2013, 03:52:31 PM
Was it last week or the week before when Yi suggested that the military is paid to much?  I've always suspected that the radical budget hawks would turn their knives on military pay and benefits if they thought they could get away with it.  It's such a big piece of the pie.

There is definitely some room to criticize military spending, including pay and benefits.
Hmm, no, I don't think so.

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 22, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
You are a clever one.  I think cutting pay is fine at times, but not benefits or pensions.

When is it fine?  OK in the morning, bad at night?  Or good when Democrats are in favor, bad when Republicans are in favor?


When you don't need so many soldiers!
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 22, 2013, 06:16:55 PM
Holy crap, Beeb made a pun. :o
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Quote from: Caliga on October 22, 2013, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 22, 2013, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 22, 2013, 03:52:31 PM
Was it last week or the week before when Yi suggested that the military is paid to much?  I've always suspected that the radical budget hawks would turn their knives on military pay and benefits if they thought they could get away with it.  It's such a big piece of the pie.

There is definitely some room to criticize military spending, including pay and benefits.
Hmm, no, I don't think so.



Caliga, your time spent dressed as a Centurion does not entitle you to either pay or benefits.  :P
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Alcibiades

Yeah its the military's equivalent of the Onion, pretty sure I commented on it, Raz.   :P




And I'm not sure about cutting pay and benefits.  Maybe the pension, which is pretty good and they are actually talking about cutting. But what else can they reasonably cut, healthcare, dental?   Soldier's sick or injured and can't do his job it can be pretty detrimental to the military and readiness.  $100 a year clothing allowance?  Maybe, but they require so much extra bullshit for you to purchase that really doesn't cover it when you take a look at how expensive uniforms and accessories are.


As for pay, you really don't make that much money in the military, especially the enlisted.  As a brand new private i was making something like $14,000 a year.   Now it's something like 18 before taxes.  An E-7 with 15-20 years is makes $36,000, which I'm actually surprised is so low to be honest.  Lot of knowledge and expertise at that level.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp
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Quote from: Alcibiades on October 23, 2013, 11:07:13 AM

And I'm not sure about cutting pay and benefits.  Maybe the pension, which is pretty good and they are actually talking about cutting. But what else can they reasonably cut, healthcare, dental?   Soldier's sick or injured and can't do his job it can be pretty detrimental to the military and readiness.  $100 a year clothing allowance?  Maybe, but they require so much extra bullshit for you to purchase that really doesn't cover it when you take a look at how expensive uniforms and accessories are.


As for pay, you really don't make that much money in the military, especially the enlisted.  As a brand new private i was making something like $14,000 a year.   Now it's something like 18 before taxes.  An E-7 with 15-20 years is makes $36,000, which I'm actually surprised is so low to be honest.  Lot of knowledge and expertise at that level.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp

Isn't it more the free housing, etc., that makes up for the low pay?
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Alcibiades

Yeah, enlisted get housing in a dorm like setting or if they are married they get duplex like living quarters, depending the rank. 

If those are filled you can get money to live off post, which is around 900-1100 depending where you live.   



So yeah, that can bump it up a bit.
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Caliga

Quote from: Malthus on October 23, 2013, 10:47:01 AM
Caliga, your time spent dressed as a Centurion does not entitle you to either pay or benefits.  :P
I used to dress up as an auxiliary ex-slave. :blush:
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