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Started by Savonarola, October 17, 2013, 09:27:40 AM

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Savonarola

QuoteBritish scientist 'solves' mystery of Himalayan yetis

Research by a British scientist has concluded that the legendary Himalayan yeti may in fact be a sub-species of brown bear.

DNA tests on hair samples carried out by Oxford University genetics professor Bryan Sykes found that they matched those from an ancient polar bear.

He subjected the hairs to the most advanced tests available.

He says the most likely explanation for the myth is that the animal is a hybrid of polar bears and brown bears.

Prof Sykes told the BBC that there may be a real biological animal behind the yeti myth.

"I think this bear, which nobody has seen alive,... may still be there and may have quite a lot of polar bear in it," he said.

"It may be some sort of hybrid and if its behaviour is different from normal bears, which is what eyewitnesses report, then I think that may well be the source of the mystery and the source of the legend."

Prof Sykes conducted the DNA tests on hairs from two unidentified animals, one from Ladakh - in northern India on the west of the Himalayas - and the other from Bhutan, 1,285km (800 miles) further east.

The results were then compared with the genomes of other animals that are stored on a database of all published DNA sequences.

Suspected yeti footprints in Nepal  Suspected yeti footprints - such as these in Nepal - are regularly photographed
Prof Sykes found that he had a 100% match with a sample from an ancient polar bear jawbone found in Svalbard, Norway, that dates back to between 40,000 and 120,000 years ago - a time when the polar bear and closely related brown bear were separating as different species.

The species are closely related and are known to interbreed where their territories overlap.

The sample from Ladakh came from the mummified remains of a creature shot by a hunter around 40 years ago, while the second sample was in the form of a single hair, found in a bamboo forest by an expedition of filmmakers around 10 years ago.

Prof Sykes said that his results were "completely unexpected" and that more work needed to be done interpreting them.

He said that while they did not mean that "ancient polar bears are wandering around the Himalayas", there could be a sub-species of brown bear in the High Himalayas descended from an ancestor of the polar bear.

"Or it could mean there has been more recent hybridisation between the brown bear and the descendant of the ancient polar bear," he said.

In 2008 scientists in the US examined hairs given to the BBC which some had claimed were from a yeti.

The scientists concluded that in fact the hairs - obtained from the north-east Indian state of Meghalaya - belonged to a species of Himalayan goat known as a Himalayan Goral.

When my brother was in college he went to hear a lecture from some Tibetan monks.  They spoke about the political situation in Tibet.  At the end of the lecture there was a Q&A period.  One man got up and asked:

"What do you think of Yeti?  Are they Abominable Snow men or are they lost inhabitants of the city of Ur?"

The monks went from :mellow: :mellow: :mellow:
To  :huh: :huh: :huh:

So even enlightenment does not prepare a man to deal with Yeti.
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Caliga

A species of bear?  That's too boring.  Therefore it cannot be the answer. :)
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derspiess

Well they found Bigfoot here (complete with DNA evidence!).  Those Tibetan dudes were probably hiding something.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2013, 09:59:25 AM
A species of bear?  That's too boring.  Therefore it cannot be the answer. :)

Don't worry.  It's not the answer.  The answer is there is no Yeti.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: derspiess on October 17, 2013, 10:03:24 AM
Well they found Bigfoot here (complete with DNA evidence!).

You sure it wasn't just Katmai?
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Caliga

Quote from: Razgovory on October 17, 2013, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2013, 09:59:25 AM
A species of bear?  That's too boring.  Therefore it cannot be the answer. :)

Don't worry.  It's not the answer.  The answer is there is no Yeti.
That's even more boring.
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Savonarola

Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2013, 09:59:25 AM
A species of bear?  That's too boring.  Therefore it cannot be the answer. :)

I like the idea that Yeti are lost inhabitants of Ur (the same city as the Biblical Abram/Abraham.)  It shows that we're all brothers.   :)

(Though I can't find Yeti from Ur theory site on the Google.  I wonder why Sergey Brin would try to cover something like that up.   :hmm:)
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

The Brain

Is it the horrible Barbra Streisand movie?
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Brain on October 17, 2013, 12:36:51 PM
Is it the horrible Barbra Streisand movie?

No, that was Prince of Tides

Eddie Teach

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DontSayBanana

Thread title made me think of this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765488/

If you can find a copy, don't hesitate to not watch it.
Experience bij!

jimmy olsen

The Yeti are obviously a remnant population of Gigantopithecus :contract:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus
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