The reality of "parental consent" for abortions

Started by merithyn, October 10, 2013, 08:03:36 AM

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crazy canuck

#30
October 10, 2013, 11:56:21 AM
Quote from: Kleves on October 10, 2013, 11:44:55 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 10, 2013, 11:18:45 AM
Or to choose to give the child up for adoption, which is far more difficult, psychologically & physcially, on a woman.
Not as tough on the kid, though.

Agreed trying to abort a kid would be wrong.

Neil

#31
October 10, 2013, 12:04:08 PM
Some Christians are bad people.  It's not news.
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derspiess

#32
October 10, 2013, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 10, 2013, 11:43:20 AM
A bit like closing the door after the horse gets out, isn't it?

That is, of course, the preferred. However, mistakes happen.

You were supposed to react more strongly to that  <_<
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merithyn

#33
October 10, 2013, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 10, 2013, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 10, 2013, 11:43:20 AM
A bit like closing the door after the horse gets out, isn't it?

That is, of course, the preferred. However, mistakes happen.

You were supposed to react more strongly to that  <_<

No. Not about this. There is no positive in any of this. I understand your stance - and agree that it's not what anyone wants. I'm pro-choice, but I'm not pro-abortion. It's a very sad circumstance for everyone.
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dps

#34
October 10, 2013, 05:53:15 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 10, 2013, 09:05:01 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2013, 09:00:45 AM
Never thought Nebraska would be an insane one.

:(

Nebraska suffers from apathy.

The extremists care and mobilize. The rest don't give a fuck.

I don't see anything that indicates that there's a problem here with Nebraskan law.  The problem here appears to be that the judge is either an idiot, or has an axe to grind.

PDH

#35
October 10, 2013, 06:24:06 PM
I don't mind parental consent for this, in general.  I also think sex ed and free contraceptives should be the base line too.  Whore pills and consequences for those who do not learn.
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Ideologue

#36
October 10, 2013, 06:29:57 PM
Man, I was reading today that Cali enacted a new law where 1)nurse practicioners can perform abortions and 2)half of California counties have no abortion providers.

Should I: go back to school?
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MadImmortalMan

#37
October 10, 2013, 07:33:32 PM
Ummm...What does the father think? He's not even mentioned.
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PDH

#38
October 10, 2013, 08:15:30 PM
If the father was another teen he doesn't think, by definition.
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CountDeMoney

#39
October 10, 2013, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2013, 09:00:45 AM
Never thought Nebraska would be an insane one.

:(

Dude, it's part of the New Confederacy.  The Great Plains states have been going the way of the Deep South for quite some time.

Ed Anger

#40
October 10, 2013, 08:19:42 PM
Plus, Nebraska football sucks.
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PDH

#41
October 10, 2013, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 10, 2013, 08:19:42 PM
Plus, Nebraska football sucks.

Amen
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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merithyn

#42
October 10, 2013, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 10, 2013, 08:19:42 PM
Plus, Nebraska football sucks.

Preach it.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Camerus

#43
October 10, 2013, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 10, 2013, 07:33:32 PM
Ummm...What does the father think? He's not even mentioned.

That rarely seems to factor into abortion debates.

Ideologue

#44
October 10, 2013, 11:39:26 PM
There was a case in Michigan, I believe, where a father tried to sue to have his parental rights/obligations terminated because the woman he knocked up would not get an abortion or give the child up for adoption.

Didn't work, obviously, but honestly I don't think there's a very good ethical basis for refusing prospective fathers but affording prospective mothers an ejector seat.

Meri: disagrees.
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