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Started by merithyn, October 04, 2013, 12:03:51 PM

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 07, 2013, 08:09:52 AM
I think you're overstating the case Meri.  Obamaexchanges are specficially designed to make price shopping as easy as possible, by offering only four flavors of coverage/deductible combination.
Yep. I'll be interesting to see if it works especially because the unique characteristic of US healthcare is that it's generally been provided by employers, so a lot of the things people will be weighing up aren't things they've necessarily thought about before.

But people aren't necessarily sensible consumers. In the UK for example customers are very reluctant to change banks or utility supplier, for all sorts of reasons. It wouldn't surprise me if health insurance was similar. Even if it looks like there's a cheaper/better deal people may stick just because they're worried about the small print, aren't sure they really know what the other provider's offering and it's better the devil you know.

There are examples of countries with private healthcare and similar exchange style systems who have seen prices drop due to competition (combined with government cost control). But my understanding is that in European countries with universal private insurance it's always been the individual who had to buy insurance, so they've always been the consumer and understand the product perhaps a bit more than Americans?
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garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 08, 2013, 09:22:50 AM
But my understanding is that in European countries with universal private insurance it's always been the individual who had to buy insurance, so they've always been the consumer and understand the product perhaps a bit more than Americans?

That would be funny. They understand less about treatment options but more about the insurance. :)
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Sheilbh

Quote from: garbon on November 08, 2013, 10:08:16 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 08, 2013, 09:22:50 AM
But my understanding is that in European countries with universal private insurance it's always been the individual who had to buy insurance, so they've always been the consumer and understand the product perhaps a bit more than Americans?

That would be funny. They understand less about treatment options but more about the insurance. :)
Eh? :mellow:
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''I guess what I'm trying to say without boring you too long at breakfast--and you all look dull as hell, I might add. The dullest audience I have ever spoken to. Just sitting there, staring at me. Pretend you like me!''
—Joe Biden, speaking to a group of Turkish-American and Azerbaijani-American donors, April 27, 2012
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

grumbler

Quote from: 11B4V on November 08, 2013, 03:13:03 PM
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''I guess what I'm trying to say without boring you too long at breakfast--and you all look dull as hell, I might add. The dullest audience I have ever spoken to. Just sitting there, staring at me. Pretend you like me!''
—Joe Biden, speaking to a group of Turkish-American and Azerbaijani-American donors, April 27, 2012
That one was pretty funny.   :lol:  The audience ate it up.
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This map from whitehouse.gov shows the states that have not expanded Medicaid coverage for low income individuals.  There seems to be something missing in my home state of Michigan...
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Quote from: Savonarola on November 08, 2013, 08:23:51 PM
There seems to be something missing in my home state of Michigan...
Obama sold it to Canada.  Sorry. :console:

11B4V

Quote from: Savonarola on November 08, 2013, 08:23:51 PM


This map from whitehouse.gov shows the states that have not expanded Medicaid coverage for low income individuals.  There seems to be something missing in my home state of Michigan...

THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!!!!  :lol:
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"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

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