Obamacare and you

[11B4V]

The NRA are my boyz????? The Tea Party??? Who is it, since you think you know.

I'm not going down that B4 rathole.  It doesn't matter who your boyz are, they are liars.  I never said I knew who they were, just that they were liars.

Lame and way off form for you.

[11B4V]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/11/14/obama-obamacare-white-house-announcement/3525383/

Obama: Canceled plans can be kept for a year

Well, well.

Good idea for many people losing their plans but it may not be so easy to roll back. On the news it also showed the insurance companies have issued a statement that they aren't so easily able to comply, to reinstate the policies that they've been mandated to end and have been planning on doing for a while, with many ins comps deciding to leave the indidual market. Biggest thing is that by allowing these policies people like to remain that means the ACA policies aren't being purchased, which the companies have spent months putting together the plans, costs, and what ever else goes into such planning. Now the cost structure gets skewed, kind of turns things on its head, costs could go up.

And, can a President mandate like that, change the rules, given that a law is in place? Wouldn't that have to be legislated through Congress?

Apparently he think so. His law, guess he can change it at anytime he wants. 

[11B4V]

11B has no boyz.  He's in the middle & slings shit at both sides.

Raz would say he lacks moral courage.

It's true, he does.  He's not so much in the middle as being against everything.  It's a safe position to take, you can look like someone who has an interest in politics without actually being for something.  If you aren't for something, you can never be wrong.  You never have to worry about the embarrassment or heart break that comes with being wrong.  Politics is a bit like dating, you have to invest some of yourself and you'll likely get burned sometimes.  The cynic that laughs at everyone else but stand for nothing is like a person who doesn't have the courage to get in a relationship because of fear of rejection.  Instead he just goes home and jerks off.  The cynic does the same thing, except instead of massaging his gentiles he massages his ego by laughing at others who were foolish enough to support an idea or person.

That was so poignant.  Did you copy it from somewhere?

I'm glad you liked it.  I don't think 11B4 does though.

Never take anything you say seriously, unless it's in the Gaming Form.

[KRonn]

Good idea for many people losing their plans but it may not be so easy to roll back. On the news it also showed the insurance companies have issued a statement that they aren't so easily able to comply, to reinstate the policies that they've been mandated to end and have been planning on doing for a while, with many ins comps deciding to leave the indidual market. Biggest thing is that by allowing these policies people like to remain that means the ACA policies aren't being purchased, which the companies have spent months putting together the plans, costs, and what ever else goes into such planning. Now the cost structure gets skewed, kind of turns things on its head, costs could go up.

I dunno. My company just sent out an email about that, and pretty much no one that I've seen is concerned. Change a few dates in the computer (from 12/31/2013 to 10/31/2014) for the old policy end dates and life goes on. I'm sure there's a bit more to it than that, but no one here seems overly concerned.

That's good, hope it can be done for  people as much as needed.     

[merithyn]

That's good, hope it can be done for  people as much as needed.   

The bigger concern is the response when folks realize that they can have their old policies back, but not at the old prices.

[Razgovory]

11B has no boyz.  He's in the middle & slings shit at both sides.

Raz would say he lacks moral courage.

It's true, he does.  He's not so much in the middle as being against everything.  It's a safe position to take, you can look like someone who has an interest in politics without actually being for something.  If you aren't for something, you can never be wrong.  You never have to worry about the embarrassment or heart break that comes with being wrong.  Politics is a bit like dating, you have to invest some of yourself and you'll likely get burned sometimes.  The cynic that laughs at everyone else but stand for nothing is like a person who doesn't have the courage to get in a relationship because of fear of rejection.  Instead he just goes home and jerks off.  The cynic does the same thing, except instead of massaging his gentiles he massages his ego by laughing at others who were foolish enough to support an idea or person.

That was so poignant.  Did you copy it from somewhere?

I'm glad you liked it.  I don't think 11B4 does though.

Never take anything you say seriously, unless it's in the Gaming Form.

That's a shame.  You might learn something.

[derspiess]

Tell me what you'd change about Obamacare and I might answer.

No, you won't. You never do.

Yes, I will :pinkyswear:

[CountDeMoney]

Oh, man.  Pinkyswearing is serious business.  SHIT JUST GOT REAL

[Admiral Yi]

That's so butch.

[Razgovory]

Oh, man.  Pinkyswearing is serious business.  SHIT JUST GOT REAL

If they break a pinky promise, you get to take their pinky.  Or at least break the finger.

[11B4V]

11B has no boyz.  He's in the middle & slings shit at both sides.

Raz would say he lacks moral courage.

It's true, he does.  He's not so much in the middle as being against everything.  It's a safe position to take, you can look like someone who has an interest in politics without actually being for something.  If you aren't for something, you can never be wrong.  You never have to worry about the embarrassment or heart break that comes with being wrong.  Politics is a bit like dating, you have to invest some of yourself and you'll likely get burned sometimes.  The cynic that laughs at everyone else but stand for nothing is like a person who doesn't have the courage to get in a relationship because of fear of rejection.  Instead he just goes home and jerks off.  The cynic does the same thing, except instead of massaging his gentiles he massages his ego by laughing at others who were foolish enough to support an idea or person.

That was so poignant.  Did you copy it from somewhere?

I'm glad you liked it.  I don't think 11B4 does though.

Never take anything you say seriously, unless it's in the Gaming Form.

That's a shame.  You might learn something.

Naw, you're to liberal.

[derspiess]

  Good old Nancy.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/house-democrats-obamacare-promise-99899.html?hp=l6

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who shepherded Obamacare through the House as speaker, said Obama was "very gracious" in making that apology but that the president's words – in the context of the law – were "absolutely" precise.

"There's nothing in the Affordable Care Act that says that your insurance company should cancel you," she told reporters. "That's not what the Affordable Care Act is about. It simply didn't happen."

[Admiral Yi]

  Selective quoting?  She can't be that stupid.

[derspiess]

By all means, read the entire article.

[Admiral Yi]

Doing so did not answer my question.