Massive use of chemical weapons in Syria, 1,429 killed including 426 children

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Maximus

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 09:37:24 AM
And that's the great thing about it:  it's low risk with the added PR bonus that "we did something about chemical weapons RAWR".
No one's buying that. They didn't with Clinton, they won't now.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2013, 09:39:58 AM
Doesn't have to be effective to be considered intervention.

Then by that definition we're already intervening, since we've got multiple levels of ineffective economic and trade sanctions in place against the Syrian government.  A few cruise missiles will just be the icing on the cupcake, so you don't have to sweat whether we'd be intervening or not, since we already are.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 09:44:11 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2013, 09:39:58 AM
Doesn't have to be effective to be considered intervention.

Then by that definition we're already intervening, since we've got multiple levels of ineffective economic and trade sanctions in place against the Syrian government.  A few cruise missiles will just be the icing on the cupcake, so you don't have to sweat whether we'd be intervening or not, since we already are.

One might say we're intervening indirectly.  Launching cruise missiles or dropping bombs and blowing things up is direct intervention. 
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2013, 09:48:04 AM
One might say we're intervening indirectly.  Launching cruise missiles or dropping bombs and blowing things up is direct intervention.

OK, kitten.

derspiess

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Tamas

Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2013, 09:39:58 AM


Doesn't have to be effective to be considered intervention.

You just, like, described the last 50 years of American foreign policy!

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Quote from: E :mad:d Anger on August 30, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
That's it. Kerry just waved Uncle Sam's wang on TV.

BONER DEFCON 1.

That settle it, you need to get a certificate of sanity from the looney bin before making any life changing decisions. Kerry as rabid warmonger? You might be seeing things that are not there.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
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Quote from: Maximus on August 30, 2013, 09:42:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 09:37:24 AM
And that's the great thing about it:  it's low risk with the added PR bonus that "we did something about chemical weapons RAWR".
No one's buying that. They didn't with Clinton, they won't now.


Serbs sure did.
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