Economic Recovery in America

[fhdz]

I have a standing order for Jessica Alba. Thanks.

Something's definitely standing. HEYOHHHHHHH

[Ed Anger]

I have a standing order for Jessica Alba. Thanks.

Something's definitely standing. HEYOHHHHHHH

Too late. Wally the one eyed wonder torpedo was already deployed this evening.

[derspiess]

The hottest Mexican chick is that one who was in Nacho Libre.  She's like Penelope Cruz without the horse nose.

[derspiess]

I have a standing order for Jessica Alba. Thanks.

Something's definitely standing. HEYOHHHHHHH

Too late. Wally the one eyed wonder torpedo was already deployed this evening.

And too late to pop another Viagra

[11B4V]

The hottest Mexican chick is that one who was in Nacho Libre.  She's like Penelope Cruz without the horse nose.

Selma Hayek. Thems some big ole boobies.

[Ed Anger]

I have a standing order for Jessica Alba. Thanks.

Something's definitely standing. HEYOHHHHHHH

Too late. Wally the one eyed wonder torpedo was already deployed this evening.

And too late to pop another Viagra

Let me lay in my wet spot in peace.

[merithyn]

See, it's this kind of ignorant attitude that causes the stigma against people who do not want to work full-time; that there is no "worth" in self, home, or community. There are plenty of projects and activities when "not working", such as music, art, reading, writing, local theatre, community events, volunteering, visiting friends/neighbors, church, managing assets/investments, homeschooling, mentoring, tutoring, meditation, gaming, gardening/farming, etc.

If you want to "prove your ambition", you can easily turn home/community commitment later into a family business, local political office, or leadership in a non-profit organization.

Hey, dumbfuck. I was a stay-at-home mom for eight years. I think I'm a little better placed to say what that means than you do. And I loved it for the time I did it. But it's not for everyone anymore than being a doctor  or a lawyer is.
for everyone. Trying to shoehorn someone into it won't help our society.

[Capetan Mihali]

Nobody likes my New Dealish public art contest

I do, fhdz, I do.   I fear it's just a little too "Portlandia" for this set, though. 

There was actually a fair amount of that kind of stuff in Philly, mainly through the Mural Arts Project; taking underemployed 20s-30s artists and setting them with a bunch of inner-city middle schoolers to paint some of the endless dreary ass-ends of dilapidated row-house blocks.  I had a couple friends involved in it, but it paid like $300 for the whole weeks-long project, so not all that viable.

[Sheilbh]

If you take a look at it, the percentage of Americans with a job now is actually higher than it was in the early 60's.  What's changed is the percentage of Americans in the job market.  50 years ago, a fairly substantial percentage of female Americans were still full-time homemakers and weren't in the job market at all, and nowdays people are more likely to keep working past retirement age as well.  So if you want to reduce unemployment and raise wages, there are 2 pretty obvious solutions:  first, roll back feminism and get the womenfolk back in the kitchen, and second, make retirement mandatory at a certain age.

But it may be the case that 50 years ago was the aberration and what's changed is to do with class. I think there's a sort of period drama view of the past but if you think back a hundred years there were huge numbers of women working. In rural communities it was essential for women to help in small or even tenant farms. If you were in a city all of those jobs done by time-saving electronic devices were done by working class women in service. In London certainly they were also working in pubs, in cafes, in laundries and if not employed then often doing work on the side for, say, a local seamstress.

I think women not working in the immediate post-war era was more unusual than women working. What's changed is the relative status of a woman who doesn't work and the sorts of jobs a woman can enter.

[fhdz]

Nobody likes my New Dealish public art contest

I do, fhdz, I do.   I fear it's just a little too "Portlandia" for this set, though. 

Sigh.

There was actually a fair amount of that kind of stuff in Philly, mainly through the Mural Arts Project; taking underemployed 20s-30s artists and setting them with a bunch of inner-city middle schoolers to paint some of the endless dreary ass-ends of dilapidated row-house blocks.  I had a couple friends involved in it, but it paid like $300 for the whole weeks-long project, so not all that viable.

Yeah, you'd have to pay people at least laborer's wages for it to be of use, and the projects would have to be fairly large in scope so you could employ a number of people.

[Savonarola]

Nobody likes my New Dealish public art contest

Most of the WPA projects that I've seen were paintings of pioneers, farmers (in smaller towns) and factories (in Detroit.)  So when you posted that I had an image of socialist realist paintings of barristas and cubicle workers.

Here's a list of WPA murals in Michigan:  http://www.wpamurals.com/michigan.htm

These hung at my wife's high school:



General Macomb names the Royal Oak



Career paths



The value of arts, culture and science.

[Eddie Teach]

Career paths

Where are the pimps, pushers and hos?

[Savonarola]

Where are the pimps, pushers and hos?

CB went to high school in the vanilla suburbs.  For people outside of Detroit, though, it doesn't seem to matter.  I have a cousin who grew up in the whitest of Detroit's suburbs.  She's a teacher now in the city of Memphis.  She tells her students she's from Detroit and they don't dare act up.

[Ideologue]

Phone/internet/tv aren't all that expensive.

Bullshit.

My combined cell phone/internet/cable bill tops $500.

That's what happens when you've got five smartphone lines on your cellphone bill.

Whoa!  That's a lot.  Mine is, like, $120.

Now, I understand 100% that your kids need phones.  If they didn't have them, they'd be labelled poors.  Since this is Amerika, that's socially damaging, so I don't begrudge you a penny on that score, although (I haven't read it yet) I bet a lot of people have.

But you need to drop that cable.  I gave up TV service a while back.  Saves like $60 a month.

Also, you need to quit spending like $300 a month on movies.  That's just wasteful.

[garbon]

Now, I understand 100% that your kids need phones.  If they didn't have them, they'd be labelled poors.  Since this is Amerika, that's socially damaging, so I don't begrudge you a penny on that score, although (I haven't read it yet) I bet a lot of people have.

No one has smart phones in my family. Basic plan costs 25 bucks a month per line.