How long should Dzhokhar Tsarnaev get behind bars?

Started by merithyn, July 10, 2013, 02:40:01 PM

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Assuming he's found guilty *coughs*, how long should Dzhokhar Tsarnaev get?

American - Death penalty
American - Life w/o parole
American - Life with possibility of parole
American - > 30 years, but not life
American - < 30 years
ROTW - Death penalty
ROTW - Life w/o parole
ROTW - Life with possibility of parole
ROTW - > 30 years, but not life
ROTW - < 30 years
Other - Share with the class, please
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Zanza

#30
July 10, 2013, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 10, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: Zanza on July 10, 2013, 03:35:22 PM
Life with possibility of parole. I would never rule out parole. Gives the possibility to grant a second chance.

Perhaps if he gets plastic surgery and a new identity.
He would be in prison for decades, so if he was eventually released, he would be unrecognizable. Giving him a new identity could be part of his parole.

Valmy

#31
July 10, 2013, 04:21:29 PM
I voted life with the possibility of parole...but thinking about it he probably should die.  If he does not it might lead certain people to believe actually following the laws and not kidnapping suspects and exporting them to third world countries to be tortured is being soft on terrorism or something.
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#32
July 10, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
This is one of those situations where the death penalty ought to be administered, I'd think.
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Razgovory

#33
July 10, 2013, 04:24:55 PM
Life without parole.  Clearly sane, clearly malicious, clearly dangerous.
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Berkut

#34
July 10, 2013, 04:25:13 PM
Life with possibility of parole.
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viper37

#35
July 10, 2013, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: merithyn on July 10, 2013, 02:40:01 PM
I'm curious to see where things fall here. And does the fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is only 19 factor into your decision at all?
life without parole.  Death penalty will simply make him a martyr and won't serve justice anymore than prison.  Spending a life behing bars vs a quick and easy out, no way.
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#36
July 10, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 10, 2013, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: merithyn on July 10, 2013, 02:40:01 PM
I'm curious to see where things fall here. And does the fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is only 19 factor into your decision at all?
life without parole.  Death penalty will simply make him a martyr and won't serve justice anymore than prison.  Spending a life behing bars vs a quick and easy out, no way.

By the time he gets the needle few people will remember what he did.
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Siege

#37
July 10, 2013, 04:39:20 PM
Death penalty!


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#38
July 10, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
I think that, after conviction but before sentencing, he should commit suicide by leaping out of the paddy wagon returning him to jail at highway speeds.  Preferably while on a high bridge.
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#39
July 10, 2013, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 10, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
I think that, after conviction but before sentencing, he should commit suicide by leaping out of the paddy wagon returning him to jail at highway speeds.  Preferably while on a high bridge.
What's in it for him?

CountDeMoney

#40
July 10, 2013, 04:56:50 PM
Life, no possibility of parole.

Kleves

#41
July 10, 2013, 05:14:24 PM
Voted death, though life w/o parole would be fine, especially if it would be significantly more expensive to put him to death. Getting him to plead guilty to life w/o parole in exchange for avoiding the death penalty would be a good outcome.
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#42
July 10, 2013, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: Kleves on July 10, 2013, 05:14:24 PM
Voted death, though life w/o parole would be fine, especially if it would be significantly more expensive to put him to death. Getting him to plead guilty to life w/o parole in exchange for avoiding the death penalty would be a good outcome.

How can life w/o parole be more expensive than death?



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#43
July 10, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 10, 2013, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: Kleves on July 10, 2013, 05:14:24 PM
Voted death, though life w/o parole would be fine, especially if it would be significantly more expensive to put him to death. Getting him to plead guilty to life w/o parole in exchange for avoiding the death penalty would be a good outcome.

How can life w/o parole be more expensive than death?

Cost of holding multiple appeals.
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#44
July 10, 2013, 05:27:55 PM
From what I've read of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (which hasn't been a lot) he sounds like Adolf Eichmann as Hannah Arendt described him; a follower, not a psychopath, not a genius and someone who would rather be a dead villain than a living nobody.  Based on my understanding of him the harshest punishment would be life without parole, having him languish as a nobody in prison.

I don't think a parole board would ever parole Dzhokhar no matter how much he reformed; they don't usually on high profile cases.  Life with and life without parole would amount to the same sentence.

The death penalty would give his life meaning (based on my understanding of him.)  I voted for that, as I figured he may as well have a fulfilling life.
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