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Arab Spring, Round 2

Started by Savonarola, June 28, 2013, 01:24:30 PM

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Berkut

Damn, our plan to get the Muslim Brotherhood into power has been foiled. What next?
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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MadImmortalMan

Al-J reporting that Egypt's ambassador to Libya has been kidnapped in Tripoli.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

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"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Legbiter

Arabs don't seem to like each other very much these days.
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PRC

Quote from: Sheilbh on January 19, 2014, 09:39:14 AM

Out of nowhere appeared a man of the people, brimming with humility, compassion and courage, with a voice as soothing and caressing as the gentle rains from heaven, alleviating every pain, healing every wound, wiping every tear.


This guy is amazing!


Viking

Quote from: Legbiter on January 24, 2014, 04:49:44 PM
Arabs don't seem to like each other very much these days.

well, it's not until recently that their hatred of the jews didn't mask that
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Phillip V

Militants Down Egyptian Helicopter, Killing 5 Soldiers

'Islamist militants shot down an Egyptian military helicopter in the Sinai Peninsula with a surface-to-air missile, raising alarms about the terrorist insurgency.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/world/middleeast/militants-down-egyptian-helicopter-killing-5-soldiers.html

CountDeMoney

I bet they said "We're number 1!" on the footage over and over and over again, too.

Savonarola

I have seen Neilist justice and it works:

QuoteEgypt mass death sentences spark outrage
Rights groups, US and EU express concern at court verdict against 529 Muslim Brotherhood supporters.

The death sentences handed out by an Egyptian court against 529 supporters of the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood have sparked widespread outrage and international condemnation.

Rights groups, the United States and the European Union expressed concern and questioned the fairness of proceedings against so many defendants lasting just two days.

The largest mass sentencing in the country's history was a sharp escalation of a crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood that the military-installed government has declared a "terrorist organisation".

Monday's sentences in the central city of Minya were related to the death of a policeman and other violence that took place across the country since July, when the army overthrew Egypt's first freely elected president, Mohamed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Nearly 700 other Muslim Brotherhood supporters, including Mohamed Badie, the supreme guide of the movement, are due in court on Tuesday.

Amnesty International said the death sentences were "a grotesque example of the shortcomings and the selective nature of Egypt's justice system".

The UK-based rights group said it was the "largest single batch of simultaneous death sentences we've seen in recent years, not just in Egypt but anywhere in the world," and called for the verdicts to be quashed.

Legal experts said the shock verdict would likely be overturned on appeal because the court had rushed the trial without following the required procedures.

Lawyers said the judge brought the case to a close after two sessions and refused to allow the defence to complete their cases.

But Egypt's army-installed interim government defended the court's handling of the case, insisting that the sentences had been handed down only "after careful study" and were subject to appeal.

Proceedings questioned

Washington said it was "deeply concerned" about the death sentences.

"While appeals are possible, it simply does not seem possible that a fair review of evidence and testimony consistent with international standards could be accomplished with over 529 defendants after a two-day trial," a State Department official said.

The US partially suspended its $1.5bn in annual aid to longtime ally Egypt, much of it to the military, after last summer's crackdown on the opposition.

EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton urged Egyptian authorities to grant defendants "the right to a fair and timely trial" and said "capital punishment can never be justified".

Defence counsel Mohamed Tousson charged that the judge had rushed to sentencing on Monday after being angered by a lawyer's request for his recusal at Saturday's opening hearing.

"He got very angry, and adjourned the trial for sentencing," Tousson told AFP news agency. "It's a huge violation of defendants' rights."

The Muslim Brotherhood said the death sentences were yet "another indication that the corrupt judiciary is being used by the coup commanders to suppress the Egyptian revolution and install a brutal regime".

At least 1,400 people have been killed in the crackdown on Morsi's supporters and thousands more arrested, according to Amnesty International.

Of the 529 sentenced on Monday, only 153 are in custody. The rest were tried in their absence and have the right to a retrial if they turn themselves in. Another 17 defendants were acquitted.

Morsi is himself currently on trial in three different cases. He was toppled by the army after a single year in power following mass protests demanding his resignation.

lf the attribute of popular government in peace is virtue, the attribute of popular government in revolution is at one and the same time virtue and terror, virtue without which terror is fatal, terror without which virtue is impotent. The terror is nothing but justice, prompt, severe, inflexible; it is thus an emanation of virtue.

-Maximilien Robespierre
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Grey Fox

Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Viking

As much as I don't approve of those 529 people being alive due to them being evil islamist scumbags, I feel a bit queasy about how they got convicted.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Neil

Neilist justice is the only true justice.  I have high hopes for the Egyptian state if this is how they will carry on their affairs.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Admiral Yi


Agelastus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 25, 2014, 11:41:37 AM
Egypt is fucked.

That's been true ever since Ramesses III was assassinated, though.
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The Brain

The Zapruder stele clearly indicates a second bowman.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 25, 2014, 11:41:37 AM
Egypt is fucked.
Sisi's running for President, but has said he will serve under and respect anyone else who runs and wins :lol:

It does worry me though. Egypt looks on a similar sort of path as Pakistan.
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