Mississippi's open carry law to go into effect Monday

Started by Scipio, June 28, 2013, 11:19:24 AM

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Scipio

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The long and the short of of it is this: in their infinite wisdom, the legislature of the state of Mississippi passed a law clarifying Mississipian's constitutional gun rights.  Now, our state constitution says, and I quote, "The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."

The attorney general has opined that the new law expands the Wild West into Mississippi:

http://www.agjimhood.com/images/uploads/forms/guncarryopinion.pdf

We are all of a sudden, with absolutely no forewarning, forethought, or anything else, Tombstone.

It's a great time to be a sign printer, because business owners can only exclude guns from their property with posted signs.

Also, open carry is legal in bars.  You can't even carry concealed in bars with an enhanced permit, and law enforcement can't unless they are in the performance of their duties.

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11B4V

Quote from: Scipio on June 28, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
I swear, there's an INXS song in there somewhere.

The long and the short of of it is this: in their infinite wisdom, the legislature of the state of Mississippi passed a law clarifying Mississipian's constitutional gun rights.  Now, our state constitution says, and I quote, "The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."

The attorney general has opined that the new law expands the Wild West into Mississippi:

http://www.agjimhood.com/images/uploads/forms/guncarryopinion.pdf

We are all of a sudden, with absolutely no forewarning, forethought, or anything else, Tombstone.

It's a great time to be a sign printer, because business owners can only exclude guns from their property with posted signs.

Also, open carry is legal in bars.  You can't even carry concealed in bars with an enhanced permit, and law enforcement can't unless they are in the performance of their duties.

I love 'Murrica!

What hysterics.  :lol: But I dont agree with carrying, concealed or open in bars, nightclubs, taverns, or the like.
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derspiess

I thought you weren't allowed to carry guns in the town of Tombstone?  :unsure:
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Valmy

Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
What hysterics.  :lol: But I dont not agree with carrying, concealed or open in bars, nightclubs, taverns, or the like.

I do not not disagree with your position here.
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Allowing firearms in a bar is a terrible, terrible idea.
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Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
QuoteThe attorney general has opined that the new law expands the Wild West into Mississippi:

What hysterics. 

Indeed. Most frontier towns made you turn in your guns while you stayed there.
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Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
What hysterics.  :lol: But I dont not agree with carrying, concealed or open in bars, nightclubs, taverns, or the like.

I do not not disagree with your position here.

Fixed it.
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MadImmortalMan

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"The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."

Does that language not actually narrow down your rights? What did it say previously?
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Scipio

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 28, 2013, 11:46:58 AM
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"The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons."

Does that language not actually narrow down your rights? What did it say previously?

No, that's the constitutional language.  HB 2, which modifies a number of state laws, basically says that carrying in a holster is open carry, not concealed, and that open carry is presumed legal, and they can't Terry stop you for carrying  a legal firearm openly.
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Siege

Alcohol and guns don't mix.

However, I am all for as much freedom as we can get.

Every regulation and law, not matter what kind, implies a goverment employee to enforce it. The less laws and regulations, the smaller the goverment we can have, and the lower the taxes.


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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Siege on June 28, 2013, 01:35:29 PM
Alcohol and guns don't mix.

You can have a drink in your hand. You can have a gun on your hip. If you have both, you'll get nabbed.
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sbr

Quote from: Siege on June 28, 2013, 01:35:29 PM
Alcohol and guns don't mix.

However, I am all for as much freedom as we can get.

Every regulation and law, not matter what kind, implies a goverment employee to enforce it. The less laws and regulations, the smaller the goverment we can have, and the lower the taxes.

In that case requiring picture ID to vote, when there is no compelling reason to do so, would be something you would be against.

derspiess

Quote from: Ed Anger on June 28, 2013, 01:43:04 PM
Ohio is thinking about adopting Stand Your Ground. And more importantly, banning red light cameras.

I think I've only encountered one red light camera, and it's all the way up in Middletown.
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