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Texas tampers with vote date - still fails

Started by merithyn, June 26, 2013, 05:23:48 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 02:48:28 PM
Actually only one happens to be illegal.

Pretty sure that's not right.

The Texas State Troopers disagree.  But I guess you know far more about our laws than they.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Siege on June 27, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Illegal immigrants = undocumented democrats

In that case the Democrats will be sitting pretty for awhile.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 02:48:28 PM
Actually only one happens to be illegal.

Pretty sure that's not right.

Oh?  Is this the same surety that that tells us that it's a Bolshevik tactic without telling us when the Bolsheviks used it?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
Quote from: Jacob on June 27, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
Let me guess which one you find objectionable: the people supporting the filibuster in Texas?

A better guess would be the two that I called undemocratic.

"Supporting the filibuster" is a nice euphemism.  Very Bolshevik.

They stood in a place they are allowed to stand and made noise where they are allowed to make noise.  I agree it was not one of the best moments in the history of Democracy but I find it rather puzzling you declare this equivalent to murdering capitalists in their beds or whatever.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2013, 02:55:26 PM
The Texas State Troopers disagree.  But I guess you know far more about our laws than they.

???  They disagree with me that both acts are illegal??

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2013, 02:55:26 PM
The Texas State Troopers disagree.  But I guess you know far more about our laws than they.

???  They disagree with me that both acts are illegal??


Yes.  They did not arrest anybody and refused to act when asked...because nothing illegal was going on.  I guess they forgot to ask you oh keeper of the laws of Texas?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Jacob

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2013, 02:45:56 PMA better guess would be the two that I called undemocratic.

"Supporting the filibuster" is a nice euphemism.  Very Bolshevik.

Normally you don't resort to name calling like that.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2013, 02:59:51 PM
Yes.  They did not arrest anybody and refused to act when asked...because nothing illegal was going on.  I guess they forgot to ask you oh keeper of the laws of Texas?

Do you have a link to that?  All I can get from Meri's articles is that the screamers in the gallery were forced to leave and 50 people ended up being arrested, whether from the outside group or inside being unclear.  Not clear to me why the inside screamers would be forced to leave if they were doing nothing illegal.  Also boggles the mind that I could walk in to the Texas legislature and scream my head off without breaking the law.

Is it an absolute requirement that you be a dick when responding to one of my posts?

Barrister

Screaming your head off in a public place is usually the offence of disturbing the peace.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Jacob

Quote from: Barrister on June 27, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Screaming your head off in a public place is usually the offence of disturbing the peace.

I have heard that sometimes non-Bolsheviks do that too.

BTW, does something being an offence mean that it is illegal?

Razgovory

Quote from: Barrister on June 27, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Screaming your head off in a public place is usually the offence of disturbing the peace.

This is not normally the case at political events.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on June 27, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Screaming your head off in a public place is usually the offence of disturbing the peace.

Well you can easily see where we could be heading off a slippery slope here.  As soon as you make it ok to haul off people because they are being unpleasant in the gallery you might as well get rid of it. 
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Barrister

Quote from: Jacob on June 27, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 27, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Screaming your head off in a public place is usually the offence of disturbing the peace.

I have heard that sometimes non-Bolsheviks do that too.

BTW, does something being an offence mean that it is illegal?

Yes.  But there is always discretion whether to arrest, and once arrested discretion whether or not to charge.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2013, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 27, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Screaming your head off in a public place is usually the offence of disturbing the peace.

Well you can easily see where we could be heading off a slippery slope here.  As soon as you make it ok to haul off people because they are being unpleasant in the gallery you might as well get rid of it.

Took look in google and the Disorderly conduct is the law in Texas, and I don't think it applies to the state capital.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2013, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 27, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Screaming your head off in a public place is usually the offence of disturbing the peace.

Well you can easily see where we could be heading off a slippery slope here.  As soon as you make it ok to haul off people because they are being unpleasant in the gallery you might as well get rid of it.

How is that a slippery slope?

Galleries are to observe lawmakers in action.  If you want to have a demonstration you do it outside the building.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.