Supreme Court: Section 4 of Voting Rights Act Unconstitutional

Started by Kleves, June 25, 2013, 09:32:51 AM

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11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

No.

Still, you haven't told me why we need these laws.  All you've said is that it's not too burdensome.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
No.

Still, you haven't told me why we need these laws.  All you've said is that it's not too burdensome.

You should be showing a picture ID to vote.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on June 27, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
No.

Still, you haven't told me why we need these laws.  All you've said is that it's not too burdensome.

You should be showing a picture ID to vote.

Why?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 27, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
No.

Still, you haven't told me why we need these laws.  All you've said is that it's not too burdensome.

You should be showing a picture ID to vote.

To show who you are.

Why?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on June 27, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 27, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
No.

Still, you haven't told me why we need these laws.  All you've said is that it's not too burdensome.

You should be showing a picture ID to vote.

To show who you are.

Why?

I could do this before.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

Without!  In Missouri you did not require such an ID 20 years ago.  Or 30 years ago.  Or 40 years ago.  Or 50 years ago etc.  Why do we need to change that?  What is the pressing reason for it?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:59:28 PM
Without!  In Missouri you did not require such an ID 20 years ago.  Or 30 years ago.  Or 40 years ago.  Or 50 years ago etc.  Why do we need to change that?  What is the pressing reason for it?

To show who you are.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Jacob

Quote from: 11B4V on June 27, 2013, 06:37:18 PM
or if they have one of these photo ID's. Oh man how crushing and hard.  :rolleyes:

You still haven't articulated why it's necessary to require ID for voting. What's the problem that's being solved by requiring them? Why is it a problem? And how will requiring ID fix it?

Nor have you actually addressed the impact of requiring IDs to vote, except by rolling your eyes like a girl from a 90s teen-flick.


Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on June 27, 2013, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 06:59:28 PM
Without!  In Missouri you did not require such an ID 20 years ago.  Or 30 years ago.  Or 40 years ago.  Or 50 years ago etc.  Why do we need to change that?  What is the pressing reason for it?

To show who you are.

As I said, that's has already been accomplished.  Since I can show who I am now without a picture ID, there should be no fuss and this law is useless.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Since I can show who I am now without a picture ID

Not really.  You can attest who your are.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2013, 07:09:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Since I can show who I am now without a picture ID

Not really.  You can attest who your are.

Yes really!  I can legally vote without a picture ID.  I have legally demonstrated who I am and this has proven adequate for a very long time.  Why the change?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on June 27, 2013, 07:12:10 PM
Yes really!  I can legally vote without a picture ID.  I have legally demonstrated who I am and this has proven adequate for a very long time.  Why the change?

No really!  You can legally vote and legally attest who you are without showing who you are.