Supreme Court: Section 4 of Voting Rights Act Unconstitutional

Started by Kleves, June 25, 2013, 09:32:51 AM

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OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2013, 10:02:52 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 25, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
for the black candidate/free money party as they always will.

Shame you made me stop reading right there, as I'm sure the rest of your post was just as lucid.

That sentence was literally added just for you. If you don't have something to get outraged about you'll invent it, so I find it better to just throw the dog a bone. I know you need the outrage a lot more than I need you reading my entire post.  :lol:

11B4V

Quote from: Fate on June 25, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
So, your saying black people are too lazy to get a picture ID card?

:rolleyes:

What is wrong with getting the ID?

What part of the constitution allows infringement upon voting rights on those grounds?

That you have to be a US citizen to vote?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Fate

Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: Fate on June 25, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
So, your saying black people are too lazy to get a picture ID card?

:rolleyes:

What is wrong with getting the ID?

What part of the constitution allows infringement upon voting rights on those grounds?

That you have to be a US citizen to vote?

So a social security card doesn't prove that, but an expired gun license does? (Texas law)

11B4V

Quote from: Fate on June 25, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: Fate on June 25, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
So, your saying black people are too lazy to get a picture ID card?

:rolleyes:

What is wrong with getting the ID?

What part of the constitution allows infringement upon voting rights on those grounds?

That you have to be a US citizen to vote?

So a social security card doesn't prove that, but an expired gun license does? (Texas law)

They have started putting pictures on SS cards when?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 25, 2013, 10:08:06 PM
I know you need the outrage a lot more than I need you reading my entire post.  :lol:

Not really.  Been seeing your bullshit coming for ten years now.

DGuller

Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 25, 2013, 07:30:01 PM
And neither was the poll tax or the literacy test.   If you were white.

Ah, those are still ineffect then, eh? Has nothing to do with the ID.
Not yet, those need a SC decision or two.

Neil

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2013, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 25, 2013, 10:08:06 PM
I know you need the outrage a lot more than I need you reading my entire post.  :lol:

Not really.  Been seeing your bullshit coming for ten years now.
Still, at least being outraged gives you something to do, right?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2013, 10:38:04 PM
Still, at least being outraged gives you something to do, right?

Beats playing Russian-designed video games.

Neil

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2013, 10:38:04 PM
Still, at least being outraged gives you something to do, right?

Beats playing Russian-designed video games.
I avoid them.  Even if they seem like they'd be totally awesome and right up my alley.  You can't trust a Russian.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

dps

Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: Fate on June 25, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
So, your saying black people are too lazy to get a picture ID card?

:rolleyes:

What is wrong with getting the ID?

What part of the constitution allows infringement upon voting rights on those grounds?

That you have to be a US citizen to vote?

You don't have to be a US citizen to vote;  at least it's not a Constitutional requirement.  We've been over this before, but in the past, some states did allow non-citizens who were permanent residents to vote.  Generally speaking, the Constitution gave the states the power to regulate who is or isn't allowed to vote.  That's been heavily restricted by amendments--the states can't discriminate against citizens on the basis of their race, gender, or age if 18 or older--but the basic power still lies with the states.  There's nothing in the Constitution that prohibits states from requiring ID.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on June 25, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
Well to be fair JQ Adams and GW Bush were sort of disastrous.  Siege is probably right here.

Benjamin Harrison and FDR as well.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Razgovory on June 25, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
That's okay, I have no idea what you were on about with "original sin".

The people who suppressed minority voters prior to 1965 are mostly dead and gone. The current leadership/citizenry of those states have inherited their sins, much like we all inherited Adam & Eve's partaking of the forbidden fruit.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2013, 05:27:47 PM
Does democracy only get destroyed when federal legislation gets overturned, or does it get destroyed when state legislation is overturned as well?

I guess it depends on the legislation in question doesn't it?
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 26, 2013, 05:50:38 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 25, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
Well to be fair JQ Adams and GW Bush were sort of disastrous.  Siege is probably right here.

Benjamin Harrison and FDR as well.

FDR doesn't count.  He was like a 12th cousin of Teddy.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2013, 10:08:44 PM
That you have to be a US citizen to vote?

Do we really have to rehash the points we have been making about this in the past 20 threads?  It seems so tiresome.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."