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Sonia Sotomayor for USSC?

Started by Caliga, May 26, 2009, 07:35:35 AM

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Fireblade on May 27, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on May 27, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 27, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
<snip> don't understand that pork is not food for some people.

Some people don't understand that pork, once cooked properly, can be food.
Some people, whose ancestors didn't grasp this, proceeded to make divine law of prohibition, vice proper cooking.

Your move.

Fireblade's Second Law: As a Languish discussion grows longer, the probability of a thread hijack involving pork approaches 1.
What's Fireblade's First Law?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Fireblade

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 27, 2009, 06:55:21 PM
Quote from: Fireblade on May 27, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on May 27, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 27, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
<snip> don't understand that pork is not food for some people.

Some people don't understand that pork, once cooked properly, can be food.
Some people, whose ancestors didn't grasp this, proceeded to make divine law of prohibition, vice proper cooking.

Your move.

Fireblade's Second Law: As a Languish discussion grows longer, the probability of a thread hijack involving pork approaches 1.
What's Fireblade's First Law?

I made it up on old languish and I forgot what it was.  :Embarrass:

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Fireblade on May 27, 2009, 06:58:38 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 27, 2009, 06:55:21 PM
Quote from: Fireblade on May 27, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on May 27, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 27, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
<snip> don't understand that pork is not food for some people.

Some people don't understand that pork, once cooked properly, can be food.
Some people, whose ancestors didn't grasp this, proceeded to make divine law of prohibition, vice proper cooking.

Your move.

Fireblade's Second Law: As a Languish discussion grows longer, the probability of a thread hijack involving pork approaches 1.
What's Fireblade's First Law?

I made it up on old languish and I forgot what it was.  :Embarrass:
Lost technology! :o
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Caliga

Quote from: Fireblade on May 27, 2009, 06:58:38 PM
I made it up on old languish and I forgot what it was.  :Embarrass:

I remember it: Pot is OSSUM.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Caliga on May 27, 2009, 07:49:31 PM
Quote from: Fireblade on May 27, 2009, 06:58:38 PM
I made it up on old languish and I forgot what it was.  :Embarrass:

I remember it: Pot is OSSUM.
Are you sure it wasn't some recipe for Possum?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Caliga

It might be... dude IS from Arkansas.  :Canuck:
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dps

Quote from: Razgovory on May 27, 2009, 06:05:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2009, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 27, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
The problem is with the immigrants.
They come from intolerant cultures

Oh, that's rich.

Ain't though?  That shit is funny.

Not surprising, though.  It takes one to know one.

Faeelin


Eddie Teach

Quote from: Faeelin on May 28, 2009, 12:58:52 AM
:lmfao:

Meanwhile, pro-choice advocates are concerned about her stance on Roe V. Wade.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/28/us/politics/28abortion.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Obama's a secret pro-lifer and he's going to stack the court with liberal yet anti-Roe judges. :tinfoil:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 28, 2009, 01:21:46 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on May 28, 2009, 12:58:52 AM
:lmfao:

Meanwhile, pro-choice advocates are concerned about her stance on Roe V. Wade.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/28/us/politics/28abortion.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Obama's a secret pro-lifer and he's going to stack the court with liberal yet anti-Roe judges. :tinfoil:

A man can dream can't he!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

Quote from: Hansmeister on May 27, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
Well, The New Republic certainly doesn't seem very enthused about her:
Rosen wrote a second article that moderated that first one after he was attacked for basing so much of it on anonymous gossip (which apparently isn't news in the US :blink:).
Let's bomb Russia!

Hansmeister

And here is the dark prince himself, writing in the WSJ:

Quote'Empathy' Is Code for Judicial Activism
What damage did Democrats suffer when they attacked Miguel Estrada?
By KARL ROVE

Both President Barack Obama and Republicans get something they want from the Supreme Court nomination of Sonia Sotomayor.

Mr. Obama said he wanted to replace Justice David Souter with someone who had "empathy" and who'd temper the court's decisions with a concern for the downtrodden, the powerless and the voiceless.

"Empathy" is the latest code word for liberal activism, for treating the Constitution as malleable clay to be kneaded and molded in whatever form justices want. It represents an expansive view of the judiciary in which courts create policy that couldn't pass the legislative branch or, if it did, would generate voter backlash.

There is a certain irony in a president who routinely praises America's commitment to "the rule of law" but who picks Supreme Court nominees for their readiness to discard the rule of law whenever emotion moves them.

Mr. Obama's pick also allows him to placate Hispanic groups who'd complained of his failure to appoint more high profile Latinos to his administration. After the Democratic share of the Hispanic vote increased to 67% in 2008 from 53% in 2004, Latino groups felt they were due more cabinet and White House posts.

Mr. Obama also hopes to score political points as GOP senators oppose a Latina. Being able to jam opponents is a favorite Chicago political pastime. Besides, the president has been reluctant to make comprehensive immigration reform an issue, so a high-profile Latina appointment buys him time.

The Sotomayor nomination also provides Republicans with some advantages. They can stress their support for judges who strictly interpret the Constitution and apply the law as written. A majority of the public is with the GOP on opposing liberal activist judges. There is something in our political DNA that wants impartial umpires who apply the rules, regardless of who thereby wins or loses.

Mr. Obama understands the danger of heralding Judge Sotomayor as the liberal activist she is, so his spinners are intent on selling her as a moderate. The problem is that she described herself as liberal before becoming a judge, and fair-minded observers find her on the left of the federal bench.

Republicans also get a nominee who likes showing off and whose YouTube moments and Google insights cause people to wince. There are likely to be more revelations like Stuart Taylor's find last Saturday of this Sotomayor gem in a speech at Berkeley: "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn't lived that life." Invert the placement of "Latina woman" and "white male" and have a conservative say it: A career would be finished.

Both Mr. Obama and the Republicans are also are denied things in this nomination. Republicans are denied an easy target. Ms. Sotomayor has a compelling personal story, attractive for cable, celebrity magazines and tabloids.

The media has also quickly adopted the story line that Republicans will damage themselves with Hispanics if they oppose Ms. Sotomayor. But what damage did Democrats suffer when they viciously attacked Miguel Estrada's nomination by President George W. Bush to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, the nation's second-highest court? New York Sen. Chuck Schumer was particularly ugly, labeling Mr. Estrada a right-wing "stealth missile" who was "way out of the mainstream" and openly questioning Mr. Estrada's truthfulness.

Nonetheless, Republicans must treat her with far more care than Democrats treated John Roberts or Samuel Alito and avoid angry speeches like Sen. Ted Kennedy's tirade against Robert Bork. The GOP must make measured arguments against her views and philosophy, using her own words and actions.

The Ricci case is an example: Whites were denied fire department promotions because of a clear racial quota. Ms. Sotomayor's refusal to hear their arguments won her stinging criticism from fellow Second Court of Appeals judge José Cabranes, a respected Clinton appointee.

Mr. Obama won't get a new leader on the Supreme Court. Ms. Sotomayor does not appear to be a consensus builder whose persuasive abilities would allow her to flip a 4-5 decision to a 5-4 decision. She is likely to be just another reliable liberal vote, much as Justice Souter was, only without his gloomy silences and withdrawn nature.

While the next two to four months of maneuverings and hearings may provide more insights into the views of Mr. Obama's pick, barring an unforeseen development -- not unheard of in Supreme Court nominations -- Judge Sotomayor will become the second Hispanic (Benjamin Cardozo was Sephardic) and third woman confirmed to the Supreme Court. Democrats will win the vote, but Republicans can win the argument by making a clear case against the judicial activism she represents.

Mr. Rove is the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Hansmeister on May 28, 2009, 06:50:49 AM
Judge Sotomayor will become the second Hispanic (Benjamin Cardozo was Sephardic)

If he doesn't have Injun blood he's not a real hispanic.  :P
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Faeelin

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 28, 2009, 01:21:46 AM
Obama's a secret pro-lifer and he's going to stack the court with liberal yet anti-Roe judges. :tinfoil:

You laugh, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't care about her stance on Roe v. Wade.

Alatriste

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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 28, 2009, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on May 28, 2009, 06:50:49 AM
Judge Sotomayor will become the second Hispanic (Benjamin Cardozo was Sephardic)

If he doesn't have Injun blood he's not a real hispanic.  :P

Well, according to your definition then Sotomayor in all probability isn't either...

Quote
Puerto Rico Ethnic Groups
80.5% White (Spanish, French, Italian, other),
8.0% Black (Yoruba, Igbo),
0.4% Taíno,
0.2% Asian,
10.9% Mixed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico

In all the Caribbean population descends from European settlers and African slaves; actually in many islands true Indians from Asia are far less rare than native "Indians".