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Sonia Sotomayor for USSC?

Started by Caliga, May 26, 2009, 07:35:35 AM

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Sheilbh

This article seems pretty good:
QuoteThe Battle Ahead  by Tom Goldstein
What will Sonia Sotomayor's confirmation process look like?

The White House has just announced Sonia Sotomayor as its Supreme Court nominee. The Senate Judiciary Committee will likely hold hearings in the third week of July, permitting written committee questions the following week and a floor vote before Congress leaves for its summer recess on the weekend of August 8. Absent the discovery of an ethical transgression, the Democratic majority on the Senate guarantees confirmation, so the new Justice will take her seat when the Court opens its 2009 Term on October 5.
Well before the hearings and votes, the immediate struggle will be to define both the nominee and the president (in light of his selection).

Here, I discuss the lines of attack.

The attacks are inevitable and tremendously regrettable, just as they were for Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito. A cottage industry--literally an industry, given the sums of money raised and spent-now exists in which the far left and right either brutalize or lionize the President's nominees. Because the absence of controversy means bankruptcy, it has to be invented by both sides, whatever the cost to the nominee personally and to the integrity of the judiciary nationally.

That is not to say that there aren't legitimate--in fact, critical--debates over issues like judicial philosophy and the proper way to interpret the Constitution that can and should be front and center in a Supreme Court confirmation hearing. But the most extreme interest groups and ideologues are transparently uninterested in that reasoned debate as they rush to caricature the nominee and the opposing viewpoint.

Because proponents' and opponents' claims about nominees are provided for public consumption through the mass media, they involve bumper sticker messages; there is not much nuance. Almost always, they collapse into assertions of ideological extremism, as when some on the left attempted to portray John Roberts as a (secret) ideologue and single-minded tool of the government and corporations against individuals.

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The public reaction to Roberts' confirmation illustrates that Americans thankfully still think for themselves and that the White House's most effective tool may be the nominee herself. But beyond a short statement at the announcement and fleeting remarks during courtesy visits to Senators, the nominee's appearance at actual hearings won't come for six weeks, which could be too late to repair her image if a sustained assault from the right actually took hold in the meantime. Controlling the narrative in the short-term will be essential.

I discuss below the four most probable lines of attack that committed ideologues are likely to advance, but to my mind basic political considerations make it very unlikely that mainstream Republican politicians will vocally join the criticism. The view of some that the nomination of Sotomayor will require the President to invest additional political capital seems completely wrong to me. Absent of course some ethical problem, the President simply has the votes.

Even more important, Republicans cannot afford to find themselves in the position of implicitly opposing Judge Sotomayor. To Hispanics, the nomination would be an absolutely historic landmark. It really is impossible to overstate its significance. The achievement of a lifetime appointment at the absolute highest levels of the government is a profound event for that community, which in turn is a vital electoral group now and in the future.

Equally significant for not only Hispanics but all Americans, Sotomayor has an extraordinarily compelling personal narrative.* She grew up in a housing project, losing her father as an adolescent, raised (with her brother) by her mother, who worked as a nurse. She got herself to Princeton, graduating as one of the top two people in her class, then went to Yale Law. Almost all of her career has been in public service-as a prosecutor, trial judge, and now appellate judge. She has almost no money to her name.

For Republican Senators to come after Judge Sotomayor is not only hopeless when it comes to confirmation (something that did not deter Democrats in their attacks on Roberts and Alito) but a strategy that risks exacting a very significant political cost among Hispanics and independent voters generally, assuming that the attacks aren't backed up with considerable substance.

Objectively, her qualifications are overwhelming from the perspective of ordinary Americans. She has been a prosecutor, private litigator, trial judge, and appellate judge. No one currently on the Court has that complete package of experience.

The most likely dynamic by far is the one that played out for Democrats with respect to Chief Justice Roberts. Democratic senators, recognizing the inevitable confirmation of a qualified and popular nominee, decided to hold their fire and instead direct their attacks to President Bush's second nominee. Justice Alito was the collateral damage to that strategy. Here, with Justice Stevens's retirement inevitable in the next few years, Republican senators are very likely to hold off conservative interest groups with promises to sharply examine President Obama's second (potentially white male) nominee.

Overall, the White House's biggest task is simply demonstrating that Judge Sotomayor is the most qualified candidate, not a choice based on her gender and ethnicity. The public wants to know that her greatness as a Justice is informed by her personal history and her diversity, not that it is defined by those characteristics. For that reason, the focus on "empathy"--rather than the "wisdom" or "good sense" of the nominee in light of her experience--plays out poorly, in my opinion.

Opponents' first claim--likely stated obliquely and only on background--will be that Judge Sotomayor is not smart enough for the job. This is a critical ground for the White House to capture. The public expects Supreme Court Justices to be brilliant. Harriet Miers was painted (frequently, by conservatives) as not up to the job. The same claim (absurd to anyone who has talked with him) is still made by the left about Clarence Thomas. By contrast, John Roberts was described as brilliant and Sam Alito as exceptionally smart.

The objective evidence is that Sotomayor is in fact extremely intelligent. Graduating at the top of the class at Princeton is a signal accomplishment. Her opinions are thorough, well-reasoned, and clearly written. Nothing suggests she isn't the match of the other Justices.

The second claim--and this one will be front and center--will be the classic resort to ideology: that Judge Sotomayor is a liberal ideologue and "judicial activist." (Put to the side the emptiness of the labels--i.e., that one person's principle (e.g., a decision invalidating state laws authorizing punitive damages) is another's "activism.") There is no question that Sonia Sotomayor would be on the left of this Supreme Court, just not the radical left. Our surveys of her opinions put her in essentially the same ideological position as Justice Souter. In the ideological cases where her rulings have been reviewed by the Supreme Court (for example, Malesko and the pending Ricci case), her views have aligned with the left of the current Court.

The third claim--related to the second--will be that Judge Sotomayor is unprincipled or dismissive of positions with which she disagrees. The three pieces of evidence initially cited for that proposition will be (i) the disposition of the Ricci case (in which a panel on which Sotomayor sat affirmed the dismissal of white firefighters' claims in a very short and initially unpublished opinion), (ii) a panel appearance in which she acknowledged that appellate judges effectively make policy, and (iii) a speech in which she talked about the role of her gender and ethnicity in her decision making.

These reeds are too thin for that characterization to take hold. The public neither understands nor cares about the publication practices of the courts of appeals. It also is easily able to accept a judge's recognition of the lawmaking effects of her decisions and the influences of her background. There just isn't any remotely persuasive evidence that Judge Sotomayor acts lawlessly or anything of the sort.

Finally, critics will characterize her as gruff and impersonable, relying on excerpts from oral arguments and anonymous criticisms in the Almanac of the Federal Judiciary. Judge Sotomayor's personal remarks will resolve this question for the public, to the extent it cares at all. But there isn't any reason to believe that she is anything other than a tough questioner. My impression from her questioning at oral arguments is that it is similar to the Chief Justice, Justice Scalia, and (in cases in which he was particularly engaged) Justice Souter.
All in all, Judge Sotomayor's easy confirmation seems assured.

And her full comments, that are being discussed here, can be read in the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html&OQ=_rQ3D2Q26pagewantedQ3Dprint&OP=1d39a4f9Q2F(Q3CBd(Q27kQ3DQ26akkO-(-77Q24(7V(.V(yQ26(DkQ51bObQ3DQ26(.V3yQ27LBrOBQ60OrcOqQ51
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grumbler

On my drive home, I was listening to NPR's "All Things Considered" and they had interviews with a lot of people from many political stripes who had had dealings with Sotomayer, and the one thing they all agreed upon was that she was not ideological.  So, it seems that JR is right to question the validity of the selective-sourcing of the CNN article, and BB's doubting of the validity of the meaning implied by the mined quotes also seems warranted, barring further evidence.

All this makes me happier with the choice... barring further evidence.
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Neil

Quote from: Barrister on May 26, 2009, 04:01:55 PM
note that one entire region of the country gets left out entirely... <_<
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Berkut

QuoteOverall, the White House's biggest task is simply demonstrating that Judge Sotomayor is the most qualified candidate, not a choice based on her gender and ethnicity.

That is going to be tough, seeing as she was the choice based on her gender and ethnicity.
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Berkut

Quote from: grumbler on May 26, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
On my drive home, I was listening to NPR's "All Things Considered" and they had interviews with a lot of people from many political stripes who had had dealings with Sotomayer, and the one thing they all agreed upon was that she was not ideological.  So, it seems that JR is right to question the validity of the selective-sourcing of the CNN article, and BB's doubting of the validity of the meaning implied by the mined quotes also seems warranted, barring further evidence.

All this makes me happier with the choice... barring further evidence.

Personally, I think I am not so opposed to the idea of "judicial activism", or rather that I think the charge is generally pretty stupid, since it mostly seems to simply mean someone making a choice the accuser doesn't like.

However, I think JRs objection to the quote as out of context is still pretty odd, since it seemed like the context confirms exactly what those barking about it are saying. I simply don't have any great problem with it - in fact, I am usually rather more scared of the will of the majority that legislation often represents.

I still find it funny that everyone is trying to spin this as not being about her gender and race though. Again, it isn't really a substantial objection, I guess. I am sure she will do fine, at least as well as any other lefty judge anyway.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Berkut on May 26, 2009, 08:11:06 PM
I still find it funny that everyone is trying to spin this as not being about her gender and race though. Again, it isn't really a substantial objection, I guess. I am sure she will do fine, at least as well as any other lefty judge anyway.
I don't think it's relevant - they did want a woman, I don't think the ethnicity actually mattered but that it makes it a particularly difficult nomination for the Republicans to oppose. 

What I find funny is that I think this critique of a nominee is raised every time they're not white or male.  When I think the actual condition should be every time they're not white, male and appropriately qualified.  And, though this goes far more the UK than US I imagine, I do wonder about the number of senior white men who got into their position due to the old boys network without raising questions about it because they're white men.
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citizen k

Quote from: grumbler on May 26, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
All this makes me happier with the choice... barring further evidence.

Do you agree with the firefighter v. New Haven decision?



citizen k

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 26, 2009, 08:19:18 PM
What I find funny is that I think this critique of a nominee is raised every time they're not white or male.

I thought I heard some grumblings about another "old white dude" when the last  nominee was white and male.


Sheilbh

Quote from: citizen k on May 26, 2009, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 26, 2009, 08:19:18 PM
What I find funny is that I think this critique of a nominee is raised every time they're not white or male.

I thought I heard some grumblings about another "old white dude" when the last  nominee was white and male.
I thought John Roberts was approved by approbation, driven down the mall while adoring crowds shouted 'Santo subito!'  He was, after all, terribly qualified.
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Berkut

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 26, 2009, 08:19:18 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 26, 2009, 08:11:06 PM
I still find it funny that everyone is trying to spin this as not being about her gender and race though. Again, it isn't really a substantial objection, I guess. I am sure she will do fine, at least as well as any other lefty judge anyway.
I don't think it's relevant - they did want a woman, I don't think the ethnicity actually mattered but that it makes it a particularly difficult nomination for the Republicans to oppose. 

Republican opposition is irrelevant.

And I think it is completely relevant - it is and was their first necessary condition for consideration. If you ahve a penis, forget it - no amount of qualification or competence is adequate.

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What I find funny is that I think this critique of a nominee is raised every time they're not white or male.

No, it is raised (at least by me) everytime they claim to want to find the best person for the job, then submit a list that excludes the vast majority of the people who could be potentially qualified.

Hell, I would not have nearly as large an issue if they just had the balls to simply say "We think there should be more than 1 USSC justice who is a woman, so we are going to try to find the most qualified woman possible". That is what they are doing anyway, so they might as well be honest about it.

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When I think the actual condition should be every time they're not white, male and appropriately qualified.  And, though this goes far more the UK than US I imagine, I do wonder about the number of senior white men who got into their position due to the old boys network without raising questions about it because they're white men.

That is a rather crass accusation to make - it smacks of bigotry and has the handy characteristic of being impossible to prove or evidence.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Berkut on May 26, 2009, 09:06:30 PM
And I think it is completely relevant - it is and was their first necessary condition for consideration. If you ahve a penis, forget it - no amount of qualification or competence is adequate.
I think gender's a perfectly reasonable thing to include in your selection.  You have a number of qualified and competent people and then you wittle down your list based on a whole range of factors, one of which I think can be gender.  I don't think it's any different than wanting a Treasury Secretary who didn't have a history with Goldman Sachs, or wanting a Supreme Court judge with a particular history and interest in a certain aspect of the law.

Similarly in this country I think it's fine to choose, from an array of qualified individuals, to favour someone, for example, who went to a state school rather than Eton.

QuoteHell, I would not have nearly as large an issue if they just had the balls to simply say "We think there should be more than 1 USSC justice who is a woman, so we are going to try to find the most qualified woman possible". That is what they are doing anyway, so they might as well be honest about it.
I agree, actually.
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grumbler

Quote from: citizen k on May 26, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
Do you agree with the firefighter v. New Haven decision?
On the face of it, no.  But since I don't know the specifics, I reserve judgement.

Do you, upon researching it, agree with it?
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grumbler

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 26, 2009, 09:13:12 PM
I think gender's a perfectly reasonable thing to include in your selection.  You have a number of qualified and competent people and then you wittle down your list based on a whole range of factors, one of which I think can be gender.  I don't think it's any different than wanting a Treasury Secretary who didn't have a history with Goldman Sachs, or wanting a Supreme Court judge with a particular history and interest in a certain aspect of the law.
That's an nteresting observation, but begs the question of "at what point do you eliminate all men from consideration?" Were all possible male candidates, or "white" candidates, eliminated before, or after, you got to "qualified and competant?"

I am not saying anything about the candidates in question, just curious as to how much weight you would put in "female" or "non-white" (whatever the last may actually mean in real terms).  This is all relative, of course.
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grumbler

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 26, 2009, 09:13:12 PM
...Similarly in this country I think it's fine to choose, from an array of qualified individuals, to favour someone, for example, who went to a state school rather than Eton.
That is the "positive" side of "Affirmative Action" and the one I accept and support.
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Quote from: citizen k on May 26, 2009, 08:39:03 PM
I thought I heard some grumblings about another "old white dude" when the last  nominee was white and male.

There was some concern about Alito belonging to a Princeton alumni organization that pressured the school to put a maximum quota on female admissions in the 70s, if that is what you are referring to.

QuoteDo you agree with the firefighter v. New Haven decision?

As a policy outcome or as a legal decision under the existing precedential framework?
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