Turkish police use tear gas, injure dozens in break up of protests

[Razgovory]

Its really strange the way supposidely hip lefty young Turkish kids rally around the iamge of a right wing douche of 80 years past.

that right wing douche saved their country from sliced-up colony status, and with a firm resolve put them on a course of modernization, instead of islam retardedness.

There was a lot of that going on in the 1920's and 30's. 

[Tamas]

Maybe, just MAYBE, and I am REALLY stretching my imagination here, but bear with me Raz:

MAYBE HE KNEW HIS PEOPLE AND COUNTRYMEN'S TENDENCIES EVEN BEFORE FUCKTARD ISLAM TRIBALIST MOONWORSHIP BECAME FRONT PAGE NEWS FOR AMERICANS!


FFS man

[Razgovory]

Maybe, just MAYBE, and I am REALLY stretching my imagination here, but bear with me Raz:

MAYBE HE KNEW HIS PEOPLE AND COUNTRYMEN'S TENDENCIES EVEN BEFORE FUCKTARD ISLAM TRIBALIST MOONWORSHIP BECAME FRONT PAGE NEWS FOR AMERICANS!


FFS man

And maybe Lenin and Stalin knew their countrymen's tendencies when they "saved their country from sliced-up colony status, and with a firm resolve put them on a course of modernization,"  This bigotry thing is unbecoming of you.  I expect that from Viking, cause he's nuts.

[Admiral Yi]

Lenin *did* allow his country to be sliced up.  He was bailed out by the collapse of the Central Powers.

[The Minsky Moment]

And maybe Lenin and Stalin knew their countrymen's tendencies when they "saved their country from sliced-up colony status, and with a firm resolve put them on a course of modernization,"  This bigotry thing is unbecoming of you.  I expect that from Viking, cause he's nuts.

Comparing Ataturk to Lenin and Stalin???

[grumbler]

Comparing Ataturk to Lenin and Stalin???

Better than comparing him to Napoleon, or Julius Caesar.

[Valmy]

Can I compare him to Hitler?

[Sheilbh]

And maybe Lenin and Stalin knew their countrymen's tendencies when they "saved their country from sliced-up colony status, and with a firm resolve put them on a course of modernization,"  This bigotry thing is unbecoming of you.  I expect that from Viking, cause he's nuts.

Comparing Ataturk to Lenin and Stalin???

Apparently

[Viking]

Can I compare him to Hitler?

He had a better mustache than hitler.

see.. I just compared him to hitler...

but, if you are trying to suggest that some of Ataturks prominent features, actions and ideas are somehow similar in nature or principle to Hitlers prominent features, actions or ideas then no, obviously not.

[Sheilbh]

Apparently there's going to be a referendum on the fate of the park. It seems a bit too late for that to work.

Meanwhile Erdogan's says they'll clear the park within 24 hours - though he said the same yesterday. It's dangerous for a PM to make threats he may have to keep.

[The Minsky Moment]

Comparing Ataturk to Lenin and Stalin???

Better than comparing him to Napoleon, or Julius Caesar.

There a lots of comparisons that don't work.  Like JS Bach, Liza Minnelli, or Jared from Subway.

[Tamas]

Apparently there's going to be a referendum on the fate of the park. It seems a bit too late for that to work.

ridicoulously late. Nobody took to the street for that park except for the initial 50 or so people who got run over by the cops 2 weeks ago.

[PDH]

Comparing Ataturk to Lenin and Stalin???

Better than comparing him to Napoleon, or Julius Caesar.

There a lots of comparisons that don't work.  Like JS Bach, Liza Minnelli, or Jared from Subway.

Though the Liza Minnelli one does work on a few levels...

[Maximus]

Was Ataturk involved in the Armenian thing? If my memory serves he must have been at some level. A quick google turns up some not so impartial sites.

[Valmy]

Was Ataturk involved in the Armenian thing? If my memory serves he must have been at some level. A quick google turns up some not so impartial sites.

He was just a general right?  Surely it was Enver Pasha's doing.

Wait...did Kemal really say this in the Los Angeles Examiner?

These left-overs from the former Young Turk Party, who should have been made to account for the millions of our Christian subjects who were ruthlessly driven en masse, from their homes and massacred, have been restive under the Republican rule ... They have hitherto lived on plunder, robbery and bribery and become inimical to any idea, or suggestion to enlist in useful labor and earn their living by the honest sweat of their brow ... Under the cloak of the opposition party, this element, who forced our country into the Great War against the will of the people, who caused the shedding of rivers of blood of the Turkish youth to satisfy the criminal ambition of Enver Pasha, has, in a cowardly fashion, intrigued against my life, as well as the lives of the members of my cabinet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks#Aftermath_and_legacy

Because it sort of sounds like he was violating Turkish law by admitting the Genocide occured