2016 elections - because it's never too early

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jimmy olsen

With 44% in Alaska, Cruz takes the lead

Cruz 2,481 35.6 0
Trump 2,318 33.2 0
Rubio 1,123 16.1 0
Carson 691 9.9 0
Kasich 360 5.2 0
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Man, this is the worst result for the GOP. With Cruz winning 3 states he's the clear chalenger rather than Rubio.
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Phillip V

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 02, 2016, 01:58:52 AM
With 44% in Alaska, Cruz takes the lead

Cruz 2,481 35.6 0
Trump 2,318 33.2 0
Rubio 1,123 16.1 0
Carson 691 9.9 0
Kasich 360 5.2 0
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Man, this is the worst result for the GOP. With Cruz winning 3 states he's the clear chalenger rather than Rubio.

Trump losing in Alaska would be egg on Sarah Palin's face.  What value is her endorsement?!  :mad:

Admiral Yi

Either that's some tiny ass turnout in Alaska or only the unpopulated Alaskimo precincts in the tundra have reported.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Phillip V on March 02, 2016, 02:02:41 AM
Trump losing in Alaska would be egg on Sarah Palin's face.  What value is her endorsement?!  :mad:

Way to find a silver lining in today's results.  :lol:
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Phillip V

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 02, 2016, 12:06:26 AM
Christie!  :lol:





After further analysis, perhaps Christie saw something in the back of Trump's head.



OttoVonBismarck

Alaska is one of the straight proportional GOP primaries, so it won't matter much delegate wise who wins, but it's a further feather in Cruz's camp if he holds on.

If the hope was to "derail" Trump and have someone else win the majority, Cruz being stronger than expected today makes that all but impossible. His projected votes, with or without other people in the race, in a lot of the states after today is terrible. Cruz is just deeply unpopular outside of some very conservative strongholds (and Alaska is certainly one of those.) I now think the realistic goal by the GOP establishment will be to force a contested convention and dump Trump. If they do this I think he runs independent out of spite, but they may be willing to pay the piper on that one.

FiveThirtyEight indicated Trump likely only needed to grab 225 delegates today or 297 cumulative to be on pace to win the nomination outright--this is because of the winner take all primaries that he would be expected to win that are coming up. If he wins Ohio and Florida that's 165 delegates, and most importantly it's straight margin delegates.

katmai

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 02, 2016, 02:06:30 AM
Either that's some tiny ass turnout in Alaska or only the unpopulated Alaskimo precincts in the tundra have reported.
2012 the GOP had something like 16,000 people vote in Caucus...
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katmai

Quote10:45 p.m.: With 27 of 40 districts reporting, including all of Southeast and most of Kenai,
12,710 Republican ballots have been counted in Alaska.
Ted Cruz held the lead in the presidential poll with 35.3 percent of the vote.
Donald Trump was second with 33.8 percent,
Marco Rubio third with 16.3 percent,
Ben Carson fourth with 10 percent and
John Kasich fifth with 4.6 percent.
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katmai

Quote64% reported
Ted Cruz 36% 5,148
Donald Trump 34% 4,909
Marco Rubio 16% 2,292
Ben Carson 10% 1,439
John Katich 4% 629
 

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jimmy olsen

Looks like Cruz will definitely win Alaska.

84% in
Cruz   6,395   36.3   11   
Trump   5,858   33.3   11   
Rubio   2,738   15.6   5   
Carson   1,846   10.5   0   
Kasich   758   4.3   0
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Phillip V

Comedy aside, is Ben Carson thus far the most successful black Republican Presidential candidate ever?

katmai

QuoteTed Cruz 36%   (Projected Winner) 7,923
Donald Trump 34% 7,346
Marco Rubio 15% 3,318
Ben Carson 11% 2,401
John Katich 4% 892

97% reporting
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katmai

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 02, 2016, 03:35:11 AM
Looks like Cruz will definitely win Alaska.

84% in
Cruz   6,395   36.3   11   
Trump   5,858   33.3   11   
Rubio   2,738   15.6   5   
Carson   1,846   10.5   0   
Kasich   758   4.3   0
Trump was up in last poll, done about a month ago by 4%
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Phillip V on March 02, 2016, 03:41:58 AM
Comedy aside, is Ben Carson thus far the most successful black Republican Presidential candidate ever?

I think Alan Keyes had comparable or better numbers.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Phillip V on March 02, 2016, 03:41:58 AM
Comedy aside, is Ben Carson thus far the most successful black Republican Presidential candidate ever?

He has 8 delegates so far, Keyes had 23 in 2000.

An interesting note from the 2000 primary- one of the failed candidates was John Kasich.
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