2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Savonarola

Quote from: Savonarola on December 18, 2015, 06:51:29 PM
If that is the case, though, what the staffer did was incredibly reckless; even if it is as innocent as the Sanders campaign makes it out to be.

I had thought maybe this was a crafty strategy after all.  For once the media is covering something other than Donald Trump.  Then I opened CNN this morning and saw this critical news story:

QuoteTrump: Bush 'dumb as a rock'

Washington (CNN)After insisting that enough damage had been done and swearing off future insults toward Jeb Bush, Donald Trump on Friday returned to badgering his favorite presidential foe.

In the fallout of CNN's Republican debate in Las Vegas, Trump has once again taken up needling the former Florida governor. Bush, eager to energize his sagging campaign, brought the fight to Trump on the debate stage, repeatedly talking over the billionaire as the pair tangled.

"I have an idea for @JebBush whose campaign is a disaster. Try using your last name & don't be ashamed of it!" he tweeted Friday.

".@JebBush has embarrassed himself & his family with his incompetent campaign for President. He should remain true to himself," he said in a series of tweets a few hours later. "The last thing our country needs is another BUSH! Dumb as a rock!"

As Bush's campaign has languished, Trump has repeatedly said that he is tired of talking about him, preferring to criticize other candidates who pose more immediate threats to his campaign.

Bush has recently been more willing to talk about Trump, projecting himself as a serious alternative to the GOP front-runner while calling the real estate mogul a "bully" who needs to be confronted. On Thursday, Bush told CNN's John Berman that the approval Trump received from Vladimir Putin this week was a nod that he himself would not have wanted to receive.

"Donald is upset that Jeb got the best of him on Tuesday night at the debate and has been the one person to stand-up to his un-American praise of Vladimir Putin," Bush communications director Tim Miller said in response to Trump's Twitter tirade.

Thanks for keeping us informed CNN; you're truly a guardian of human liberty.
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Savonarola

Quote from: Zanza on December 19, 2015, 07:45:52 AM
QuoteSuspension from the database hurts a campaign's field operations because it helps canvassers determine which streets to target for voters.
Do they really go from house to house pretending to speak on behalf of a presidential candidate? Or am I misunderstanding this?

Target with a mail/leaflet campaign, I think is what they mean.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Zanza on December 19, 2015, 07:45:52 AM
QuoteSuspension from the database hurts a campaign's field operations because it helps canvassers determine which streets to target for voters.
Do they really go from house to house pretending to speak on behalf of a presidential candidate? Or am I misunderstanding this?

Why would they pretend?

Studies have shown that people so visited are significantly more likely to get out and vote.
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Zanza

I guess I don't get how American political campaigns work. I would find it creepy if a party collects data on me or visits me. And as the presidential primary is highly personal with few apparent fixed policy statements I wonder what those campaigners can legitimately tell about a candidates intentions.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Zanza on December 19, 2015, 09:25:09 AM
I guess I don't get how American political campaigns work. I would find it creepy if a party collects data on me or visits me. And as the presidential primary is highly personal with few apparent fixed policy statements I wonder what those campaigners can legitimately tell about a candidates intentions.

Since activists who go door knocking are usually more left/right wing (depending on the party) then the candidate they're supporting they're relentlessly drilled on what to say and how to answer questions. Hillary and Sanders have put out plenty of policy statements, as have more traditionally GOP candidates like Bush, Rubio and Kaisch.

Speaking of more traditional GOP candidates. :lol:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/360610.php
QuoteJeb Bush Threatens to Kill the Republican Party

Fitting, that the Establishment should be the ones to put the gun to the sick party's head and put it out of its misery.

Jeb Bush is considering making a flat declaration that if Trump should win the nomination, he won't vote for him. Fine, except it's been the Establishment's matra forever that we must all Go Along to Get Along.

Allah writes:

QuoteIf Jeb Bush, establishment princeling, were to declare that he'll have no part of a Republican Party with Donald Trump as nominee, Trump fans will laugh and extend their middle fingers and other voters will marvel at how quick the elites are to abandon the GOP when it's having a rare populist moment. The donor class are all proud Republicans right up until the moment they can't get their way, at which point they're gone. Why should grassroots conservative continue to turn out for lackluster establishment nominees like McCain and Romney if donors won't return the favor for Trump?

Drew made a point about this a few months ago: the US Chamber of Commerce made similar noises about defecting if their agenda of corporate welfare and government hand-outs weren't greeted more solicitously.

Thus the double-standard so many complain about: The Establishment tells the grassroots not to make demands, and to remain loyal to the party no matter how little of its agenda is pressed for, while the Establishment and the pampered corporate wing feel pretty damn comfortable serving up ultimatums and splitting from the party if their agenda isn't eagerly serviced.

How many times has this happened? The Establishment behaves as if it has a kingly Right to Rule. How many times has a Tea Partier lost to an Establishment figure, only to dutifully endorse and campaign for the Establishment winner; and how many times has a defeated Establishment fuck turned around and betrayed the party by throwing the race to a Democrat?

The hell with you. May the devil take you all.

So fine: As we've been saying, Burn It Down. You're Democrats anyway; you're just more realistic than the normal Democrat about how much of your income you're willing to hand over to the government to redistribute to strangers.

I'm sure you can make some compromise with them; you're good at compromising with Democrats. A 70% top marginal tax rate? Split the difference, it's all good.

So go.

Go, and go to hell.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2015, 05:32:12 AM
Hillary and Sanders have put out plenty of policy statements, as have more traditionally GOP candidates like Bush, Rubio and Kaisch.

What, there are candidates who are more traditionally GOP than Bernie Sanders? :o
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Lindsey Graham is OUT! :o I wonder which candidate would benefit the most from that.

alfred russel

Quote from: DGuller on December 21, 2015, 10:53:46 AM
Lindsey Graham is OUT! :o I wonder which candidate would benefit the most from that.

And now which candidate is left for GOP primary voters that want to support a gay guy?  :(
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Pity, I liked his performance in Boogie Nights.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: alfred russel on December 21, 2015, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 21, 2015, 10:53:46 AM
Lindsey Graham is OUT! :o I wonder which candidate would benefit the most from that.

And now which candidate is left for GOP primary voters that want to support a gay guy?  :(

Ted Cruise?
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: DGuller on December 21, 2015, 10:53:46 AM
Lindsey Graham is OUT! :o I wonder which candidate would benefit the most from that.

Rubio. Not only was he the next most hawkish candidate (Foreign Policy was Graham's signature issue), but Graham's presence in the race was holding back a lot of senators and South Carolina politicians from endorsing anyone.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lindsey-graham-tries-to-stop-trump-the-only-way-he-can-by-quitting/
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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on December 21, 2015, 10:53:46 AM
Lindsey Graham is OUT! :o I wonder which candidate would benefit the most from that.

Well we all knew this was coming, but I don't think it will help him.  There just isn't a much of a gay constituency in the GOP.
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DGuller

You mean he's a "bachelor", not a bachelor?

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Ted Cruz campaign rally morphs into creepy 'prayer revival' so everyone can pray for him to be president

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz turned one of his campaign events into a "prayer revival" on Tuesday, giving members of the audience an opportunity to ask God to make him the next president.

Cruz opened his Nashville rally by vowing to make the Department of Justice investigate Planned Parenthood and promising an end to what he called "religious persecution."
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/ted-cruz-campaign-rally-morphs-into-creepy-prayer-revival-so-everyone-can-pray-for-him-to-be-president/

Maybe he can pray away the deficit.  :lol:
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