POTUS Debate II: The Empire Strikes Back at the Wrath of Electric Mittensaloo

Started by CountDeMoney, October 15, 2012, 08:17:36 PM

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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Kleves

Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 09:16:37 PM
Romney is never going to live that whole Libya thing down. He really fucked that one up, imo.
That was bad. I think Mitt was right about the substance of his attack - Obama didn't call the attacks a pre-planned terrorist attack (though, really, who cares?) - but he fucked up by trying to insist that Obama didn't even use the word terror.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 16, 2012, 09:52:33 PM
The one exchange where I felt there was a clear and unequivocal loser was on Libya, Obama used the full majesty of the Presidency in that, took full responsibility for everything (as you have to do in issues of foreign relations--it's one area where the President really does have almost total control) and did not try to dissemble from that at all. In the same swing he mentioned Romney's ill-fated decision to try and make political hay out of it, and Romney's response was weak and ineffective.

Man, Mittens really stepped in it on that one.

It looks even rougher on replay. :bleeding:

DGuller

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 08:26:45 PM
Did Mittens just base his tax deductions plan on "let me just pull out a number, say $25,000"?
Yeah, wasn't a very good argument.  When you're being accused of not having specifics on how you're going to find all those deductions, starting the rebuttal with "let me just pull out a number" may not be the most effective tactic.  Too bad Obama didn't pounce on it, or wasn't allowed to.

CountDeMoney


Ed Anger

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garbon

Btw, when looking at d's vid. I saw this. I hate Gingrich but I think he's right here in attacking Seedy...er Chris Matthews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMLAiYLDS0
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PDH

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-Umberto Eco

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merithyn

A friend on FB posted this: http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/10/gas-prices-2.html

Turns out Romney was way off on the gas prices thing four years ago. Gas prices were $2.66 when Obama took office, which was down from $3.48 the month before that.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
Btw, when looking at d's vid. I saw this. I hate Gingrich but I think he's right here in attacking Seedy...er Chris Matthews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMLAiYLDS0

:lol: LOL, I love Matthews, though.  He just doesn't give a shit anymore.

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
Btw, when looking at d's vid. I saw this. I hate Gingrich but I think he's right here in attacking Seedy...er Chris Matthews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMLAiYLDS0

Not a fan of him either, but shit does he know how to go after the media.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 10:02:19 PM
A friend on FB posted this: http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/10/gas-prices-2.html

Turns out Romney was way off on the gas prices thing four years ago. Gas prices were $2.66 when Obama took office, which was down from $3.48 the month before that.

:hmm:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/31/news/economy/gas_price_2008/index.htm

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on October 16, 2012, 10:05:39 PM
Not a fan of him, either but shit does he know how to go after the media.

I was actually a bit of a Newt fan back in the early Clinton years but unfortunately, like so many other prominent GOP leaders, he's gone slowly insane over time.  Damned shame.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: mongers on October 16, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
So is it now ok to attack the Chinese ?

I guess but I would propose focusing the attacks on stuff the Chinese actually do that is bad.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson