Europa Universalis IV announced

[Maladict]

And feels like it makes more sense than this:

It wouldn't be the first time Stonehenge was relocated

It may have been built in Wales first, then moved to Wiltshire.

So relevance to EU4?

Just saying there's precedent, at least. And the idea did come up again in the 17th century, as part of an employment program (albeit a theoretical example).

[garbon]

Okay but there is precedent for building giant pyramids. Would be an odd move in EU4 too.

[Sheilbh]

I kind of feel like it's a missed opportunity because I feel like there definitely could be a grand project for this period that plays into different periods/sorts of states. You know star forts across Italy which suddenly become useless once Nappy arrives (), Versailles, the Royal Exchange, great markets in Amsterdam, the Blue Mosque, maybe the Unter der Linden or Sans Souci  etc.

I think so many of them are already events but it slightly feels like they could be projects that result in the event (at great cost) and also available for other countries (possibly within culture groups).

[Tamas]

I am fairly sure there's already a "push button to build Suez Canal for crapton of money" feature in there.

[Maladict]

Okay but there is precedent for building giant pyramids. Would be an odd move in EU4 too.

Yes. Relocating them, not so much.

[garbon]

Okay but there is precedent for building giant pyramids. Would be an odd move in EU4 too.

Yes. Relocating them, not so much.

Let's just agree to disagree.

[garbon]

All in all, I think the era when I'm immediately interested in buying p'dox products has drawn to a close. I'm now uncertain if I'll ever buy ck3 rather than a matter of when.

[Maladict]

Okay but there is precedent for building giant pyramids. Would be an odd move in EU4 too.

Yes. Relocating them, not so much.

Let's just agree to disagree.

Good idea. I don't even know what we're discussing anymore

[Valmy]

All in all, I think the era when I'm immediately interested in buying p'dox products has drawn to a close. I'm now uncertain if I'll ever buy ck3 rather than a matter of when.

Yeah I am having the same issue. I have CK2 and have spent a mint on all its expansions...and while CK2 is just objectively much better than the very flawed and janky, if still wonderful, CK I am not sure CK3 is enough of a leap forward to justify starting all over again.

[crazy canuck]

I enjoyed a couple of play throughs of CK3, then put it aside.  In a few years when they have a bulk sale of the inevitable DLC's I will pick it up again.

I still buy the EUIV DLCs on release.  It is an old and lasting addiction.

[DGuller]

All in all, I think the era when I'm immediately interested in buying p'dox products has drawn to a close. I'm now uncertain if I'll ever buy ck3 rather than a matter of when.

Same here.  Their DLC model may be a financial success, but it really detracted from the product.  Whatever games I already have, I guess I'm invested in, but I'm going to be very careful getting into new games, knowing that bugs will fester indefinitely under the every-increasing layers of feature bloat.

[The Minsky Moment]

The only game I pay retail for (since EU1 and 2) is the Victoria series.

[Josephus]

Looks like the last patch is so fucked, Johan has apologized. So if you haven't installed it -- don't.

[Maladict]

Johan has apologized.

He used to fly into a rage and blame the users. 

[Caliga]

His berserker blood has been cooled by the Mediterranean breezes.