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Syria Disintegrating: Part 2

Started by jimmy olsen, May 22, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

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CountDeMoney

Great, another Timmay Murder Boner.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 03, 2012, 07:09:03 PM
Great, another Timmay Murder Boner.
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CountDeMoney

What can I say.  It's a Turkish Delight.

Grinning_Colossus

Turkey semi-DOWs Syria:

QuoteTurkey's parliament has authorised troops to launch cross-border action against Syria, following Syria's deadly shelling of a Turkish town.

The bill, passed by 320 to 129, also permits strikes against Syrian targets.


But Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay insisted this was a deterrent and not a mandate for war.

Turkey has been firing at targets inside Syria since Wednesday's shelling of the town of Akcakale, which killed two women and three children.

Ankara's military response marks the first time it has fired into Syria during the 18-month-long unrest there.

Several Syrian troops were killed by Turkish fire, a UK-based Syrian activist group said. Damascus has not confirmed any casualties.

Apology
The Turkish parliament passed the bill in a closed-doors emergency session.
It permits military action, if required by the government, for the period of one year.

However, Mr Atalay insisted the priority was to act in co-ordination with international bodies.

He told Turkish television: "This mandate is not a war mandate but it is in our hands to be used when need be in order to protect Turkey's own interests."

He said Syria had accepted responsibility for the deaths.

"The Syrian side has admitted what it did and apologised," Mr Atalay said.

Zeliha Timucin, her three daughters and her sister died in Akcakale when a shell fell in their courtyard as they prepared the evening meal.

They were buried in a local cemetery on Thursday.

Turkey had called for the UN Security Council to meet and take "necessary action" to stop Syrian "aggression".

However, Mr Atalay said that UN and Syrian representatives had spoken on Wednesday evening.

He said: "Syria... said nothing like this will happen again. That's good. The UN mediated and spoke to Syria."

The UN Security Council drafted a resolution on Thursday condemning the Syrian shelling "in the strongest terms", calling it a "violation of international law".

However, Russia, Syria's main ally, has blocked the text and instead proposed one that does not refer to international law, and which calls on all parties to "exercise restraint".

Nato has held an urgent meeting to support Turkey, demanding "the immediate cessation of such aggressive acts against an ally".

The US, the UK, France and the European Union have already condemned Syria's actions.

The BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut says neither Turkey nor Syria wants this to develop into a war. He says there is no appetite in Nato or the West for military conflict and that it is noticeable how conciliatory Syria has been since the news of the shelling broke.

Many social media users in Turkey have been reacting strongly against the possibility of war with Syria.

Hashtags such as #notowar drew a lot of attention.

One user, coymak, tweeted: "There is no victory in war, only victory is the happiness in the eye of the children when it is ended!"

There were many tweets referring to the call for an anti-war rally in central Istanbul on Thursday evening.

In Syria itself as many as 21 members of Syria's elite Republican Guards have been killed in an explosion and firefight in the Qudsaya district of Damascus, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) told the BBC.

The SOHR is one of the most prominent organisations documenting and reporting incidents and casualties in the Syrian conflict. The group says its reports are impartial, though its information cannot be independently verified.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19830928
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Kinda wonder what the mood is on the street in Turkey.
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Valmy

QuoteBut Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay insisted this was a deterrent and not a mandate for war.

I wonder what Turkey is waiting for?
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Quote from: Valmy on October 04, 2012, 12:24:36 PM
QuoteBut Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay insisted this was a deterrent and not a mandate for war.

I wonder what Turkey is waiting for?

The cranberry sauce.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 04, 2012, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 04, 2012, 12:24:36 PM
QuoteBut Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay insisted this was a deterrent and not a mandate for war.

I wonder what Turkey is waiting for?

The cranberry sauce.

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Quote from: Queequeg on October 04, 2012, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 03, 2012, 07:07:59 PM
Hopefully this will make the Turks get off their ass and restore the Ottoman Empire.  :mad:
A lot of people would have mixed feelings about that.
Probably not as many as there would have been though.  Just saying.
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Quote from: Queequeg on October 04, 2012, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 03, 2012, 07:07:59 PM
Hopefully this will make the Turks get off their ass and restore the Ottoman Empire.  :mad:
A lot of people would have mixed feelings about that.

Are you saying that you cannot have an Ottoman Empire without repeating the Armenian Genocide? The entire point of the Armenian Genocide is that it worked. There are no more Armenians on the Ottoman side of the border. Just like there are no more Greeks.

There are many good reasons to not have a new ottoman empire, preventing the mass murder of armenians and greeks isn't one of them.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Tamas

I have been thinking.

Parallels with the 1930s are abound.

One of the things during the late 30s was there it seemed like a good idea to have agressive strong countries reclaim some of their old possessions, in the name of stability.

Isn't the apparent silent approval to have Turkey do as he wishes with Syria the same phenomenom? Will it have similar consequences?

Syt

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