The Sinking of the Concordia

[grumbler]

From the pics it doesn't look like there is much depth where the ship is, it was essentially run aground.

The pics I see look like there is a fair amount of water there.

In any case, you can always put a bunch of caissons together on either side of the hull and run lines between them under the hull, and lift it that way, in virtually no water at all.

[Berkut]

Well, they have to do something right? Can't just leave the damn thing there.

[HisMajestyBOB]

I dunno, it could make an interesting tourist attraction all by itself.

[DGuller]

I dunno, it could make an interesting tourist attraction all by itself.

Is there really a tourism market for Italian engineering disasters?

[Barrister]

I dunno, it could make an interesting tourist attraction all by itself.

Is there really a tourism market for Italian engineering disasters?

[lustindarkness]

The Captain should be keelhauled. 

Before or after the ship is recovered? And it is not as effective as in the days of hulls covered in barnacles.
If it is done now, there are still rocks and a big gash on the side  .

[mongers]

I dunno, it could make an interesting tourist attraction all by itself.

Is there really a tourism market for Italian engineering disasters?

Nicely understated.

[grumbler]

I dunno, it could make an interesting tourist attraction all by itself.

Is there really a tourism market for Italian engineering disasters?

The engineering appears to have been sound.

The accounting, maybe not so much.

[dps]

So I wonder what you do with a ship that size - try to refloat it to get it out of there to where it can be repaired?

How would you do that? I don't think a ship of any size could get near enough do the depth of the water.

Not sure what your question is.

You refloat the ship by patching the holes in the hull, pumping it out, and offloading enough weight that it can float above the bottom of the sea there, and then tow it away to someplace with a drydock big enough to accommodate it.  No "ship of any size" need come near.

that's certainly how its done, but those are going to have to be some gigantic portable bilge pumps; has it been done with a ship this size before?

I doubt it.  I don't think that a ship that size has ever been sunk before (though it's mostly above water, so I'm not sure how technically correct it is to call it sunk.  Didn't we have that discussion once about the Petropavlovsk, or was that a different forum?). 

If they are going to try to salvage it, they had best do it rather quickly.  The way it's laying on its side exposed like that, a decent-sized storm would likely rip it apart, though I don't really know how strongly constructed it is.

[Berkut]

Apparently a salvage company has been brought in to start getting the liquids offloaded from the ship. In theory, they could then patch the hole, pump out the ship, and refloat it. The other alternative is to cut it up in place.

However, half the ship has been submerged in salt water, making it unlikely that it would be economically feasible to repair the vessel. The insurance claim for the ship alone is $450 million. So either way you cut it, the Concordia is likely done.

[mongers]

Why is this story getting so much coverage in the media, it's not as if there are other things going on in the world like a debt crises, global economic slowdown, nr civil war in Syria etc.   

[Admiral Yi]

Why is this story getting so much coverage in the media, it's not as if there are other things going on in the world like a debt crises, global economic slowdown, nr civil war in Syria etc.   

This one looks cool on TV.

[Pedrito]

I dunno, it could make an interesting tourist attraction all by itself.

Is there really a tourism market for Italian engineering disasters?

L.

[Caliga]

For some reason that reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMOnOjASyKk

[jimmy olsen]

What a whiney bitch! 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/view-from-the-bridge-the-inside-story-of-italys-cruise-disaster-6291118.html

View from the bridge: the inside story of Italy's cruise disaster

Coastguard tapes and witness accounts paint damning picture of captain's dereliction
Michael Day Author Biography

Giglio

Wednesday 18 January 2012

As further details emerged yesterday of the chaotic events that led to the Costa Concordia disaster, one constant remained – the blame continued to fall squarely (many would say fairly) on the ship's captain, Francesco Schettino.

Mulletted, jowly and not averse to a photo-opportunity, Mr Schettino, 52, who left his passengers and crew behind on the sinking vessel, was questioned yesterday at a court in the mainland town of Grosseto. He was released under house arrest and faces charges that could see him jailed for 15 years.

Investigators have accused him of multiple counts of manslaughter and abandoning ship before all of the survivors could be saved. At least 11 people died and up to 29 were still unaccounted for last night. Captain Schettino's arrest is expected to be upheld by a preliminary investigating judge.

Recordings of Mr Schettino's startling conversations with a shocked fellow seaman and a coastguard have revealed the disorder, incompetence and cowardice that doomed so many.

As terrified passengers tried to abandon the sinking cruise ship in the early hours of Saturday, its commander had already beaten most of his charges in the scramble for dry land. An incredulous and apoplectic captain of the Livorno coast guard, Gregorio Maria De Falco, can be heard on the tapes shrieking at Mr Schettino to "get back on board, for fuck's sake!"

The evening had started calmly enough. But catastrophe was on the cards the moment that Captain Schettino – who, according to Italian media reports, "drives his ship like a Ferrari" – decided on a special show-boating approach to the pretty island of Giglio, in order to salute a legendary local cruise liner captain, Mario Palombo. The stunt was even promoted on Facebook.

According to a transcript of the conversation between the captain and the coastguard, just minutes before the Costa Concordia hit a submerged rock at 9.45pm, Mr Schettino was making a phone call to the retired Mr Palombo, who lives on Giglio. "I'm going to salute you," he said, even though Mr Palombo was not on the island at the time.

The call was interrupted, apparently as the liner collided with rocks. At 9.49pm, Captain De Falco, aware that something was amiss – perhaps because panicking passengers were calling the emergency services – contacted the ship's bridge to ask what was happening. "Nothing, just a technical problem," said Mr Schettino, despite having steered his vessel over rocks that left a 50m gash in its side.

At 9.54pm Captain De Falco was back on the line, asking: "Concordia, we're calling to ask if everything is OK."

"Yes, it's just a technical thing," Capt Schettino replied.

This mendacious and possibly lethal misinformation was passed to the 3,200 passengers, who carried on eating and drinking when they should have been heading to lifeboats. Some of the crew demanded that the captain speed up the evacuation, but he appeared to do what many Italians resort to when the heat is on – and phoned his mother. "Mum, there's been a tragedy... but don't worry, I tried to save the passengers," he told her, before jumping ship.

At 12.42am, after a series of calls to Mr Schettino's mobile phone from the increasingly suspicious Mr De Falco, the ship's captain finally lets slip the phrase: "We can't go back aboard because the ship is slipping backwards."

"Captain, have you abandoned the ship?" asks the astonished official.

Mr Schettino lies, saying: "Of course not. How could I have abandoned the ship?"

The coastguard then says: "Now, go to the prow, raise the rope ladders and co-ordinate the evacuation. Tell us how many people are still on board: children, women, passengers, and the exact number in each category. Is that clear?"

Mr Schettino eventually replies that he is not keen to go back on board because it is dark and the Concordia is listing. "But do you realise it is dark and here we can't see anything," he says.

This only served to underline the plight in which he had left his passengers. It also produced a final, furious response from Mr De Falco. "Look Schettino, you may have saved yourself from the sea, but I'm going to see you get it... I'm going to make sure you're in real trouble. Get the fuck back on board!"

To underline his threat, Capt De Falco even tells the commander that he is recording his orders. Mr Schettino says: "Okay, I'm going." But he never does.

Instead, he appears to have spent the night in the harbourmaster's office in the little port of Giglio. A taxi-driver has reported that he picked him up at 11.30am and took him the 400 metres to the Bahamas Hotel. The hotel owner said Mr Schettino did not book in, but it is known that police detained him soon afterwards.

Yesterday, Mr Schettino's lawyer, Bruno Leporatti, denied that his client had abandoned ship, adding that he was "overcome and wants to express his greatest condolences to the victims".

He insisted that the captain's actions in anchoring the vessel at one end to swing it closer to the shore after the collision "saved the lives of thousands of people". "It could have been an enormous tragedy," Mr Leporatti said.

But even Costa Crocier, which owns the Costa Concordia, appears to have jettisoned its employee, having accused Capt Schettino of making an "inexplicable" error.

Transcript: The captain's shame

Port Authority (PA) "Schettino, listen to me, there are people trapped onboard, now you go back... you tell me if there are children, women or people that need assistance and you give me a number for each one of these categories is that clear? Look Schettino, you may have saved yourself from the sea but [we] will put you through a lot of trouble... Get back on board for fuck's sake."

Schettino "Commander, please."

PA "There are no 'pleases'. Get back on board!"

Schettino "I am not going because the other lifeboat is stopped."

PA "Don't make any more excuses... There are already bodies, Schettino."

Schettino How many bodies...?

PA I don't know... You are the one who has to tell me... Christ.

Schettino But... it is dark...

PA So what? You want go home? Get on that prow... and tell me what can be done, how many people there are and what their needs are. Now!