The Sinking of the Concordia

[grumbler]

So I wonder what you do with a ship that size - try to refloat it to get it out of there to where it can be repaired?

How would you do that? I don't think a ship of any size could get near enough do the depth of the water.

Not sure what your question is.

You refloat the ship by patching the holes in the hull, pumping it out, and offloading enough weight that it can float above the bottom of the sea there, and then tow it away to someplace with a drydock big enough to accommodate it.  No "ship of any size" need come near.

[katmai]

Stop with your nonsense grumbles. Timmay is only surpassed by Neil when it comes to all things naval on this board.

[HisMajestyBOB]

BBC has some pictures of the boat. The gash in the hull is massive, and there's chunks of rock embedded in it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16560050

[Rasputin]

So I wonder what you do with a ship that size - try to refloat it to get it out of there to where it can be repaired?

How would you do that? I don't think a ship of any size could get near enough do the depth of the water.

Not sure what your question is.

You refloat the ship by patching the holes in the hull, pumping it out, and offloading enough weight that it can float above the bottom of the sea there, and then tow it away to someplace with a drydock big enough to accommodate it.  No "ship of any size" need come near.

that's certainly how its done, but those are going to have to be some gigantic portable bilge pumps; has it been done with a ship this size before?

[Richard Hakluyt]

From the pics it doesn't look like there is much depth where the ship is, it was essentially run aground.

[Berkut]

I think they should have stayed further away from the rocks and stuff.

I wonder if they've considered putting GPS on those things? That might help them avoid countries that stick out into the ocean like Italy does.

[Jacob]

I think they should have stayed further away from the rocks and stuff.

I wonder if they've considered putting GPS on those things? That might help them avoid countries that stick out into the ocean like Italy does.

Yeah, that or use boats that don't go as deep.

[Razgovory]

I think they should have stayed further away from the rocks and stuff.

An astute observation.

[HisMajestyBOB]

I think they should have stayed further away from the rocks and stuff.

I wonder if they've considered putting GPS on those things? That might help them avoid countries that stick out into the ocean like Italy does.

I've heard some countries' ships use innovations like "nautical charts" and "keeping watching". It might be a good time for the Italians to start looking into those things.

[Tamas]

I think they should have stayed further away from the rocks and stuff.

I wonder if they've considered putting GPS on those things? That might help them avoid countries that stick out into the ocean like Italy does.

Yeah, that or use boats that don't go as deep.

heh, allegedly it's 13 floors high, and only going down below water about 8 meters

[The Brain]

Elric didn't have this problem.

[Ed Anger]

The captain threw a chicken into the sea before the voyage. Bibant, quoniam esse nolunt.

[The Brain]

What a waste.

[Razgovory]

The captain threw a chicken into the sea before the voyage. Bibant, quoniam esse nolunt.

Heh.

[HVC]

Why lie after the fact and say you were on the ship when you were told this conversation was being recorded

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1116771--concordia-captain-resists-orders-to-re-board-ship-read-transcript?bn=1

Here is a translation of the transcript.

—De Falco: "This is De Falco speaking from Livorno. Am I speaking with the commander?"

—Schettino: "Yes. Good evening, Cmdr. De Falco."

—De Falco: "Please tell me your name."

—Schettino: "I'm Cmdr. Schettino, commander."

—De Falco: "Schettino? Listen Schettino. There are people trapped on board. Now you go with your boat under the prow on the starboard side. There is a pilot ladder. You will climb that ladder and go on board. You go on board and then you will tell me how many people there are. Is that clear? I'm recording this conversation, Cmdr. Schettino..."

—Schettino: "Commander, let me tell you one thing..."

—De Falco: "Speak up! Put your hand in front of the microphone and speak more loudly, is that clear?"

—Schettino: "In this moment, the boat is tipping..."

—De Falco: "I understand that, listen, there are people that are coming down the pilot ladder of the prow. You go up that pilot ladder, get on that ship and tell me how many people are still on board. And what they need. Is that clear? You need to tell me if there are children, women or people in need of assistance. And tell me the exact number of each of these categories. Is that clear? Listen Schettino, that you saved yourself from the sea, but I am going to... I'm going to make sure you get in trouble. ...I am going to make you pay for this. Go on board, (expletive)!"

—Schettino: "Commander, please..."

—De Falco: "No, please. You now get up and go on board. They are telling me that on board there are still..."

—Schettino: "I am here with the rescue boats, I am here, I am not going anywhere, I am here..."

—De Falco: "What are you doing, commander?"

—Schettino: "I am here to co-ordinate the rescue..."

—De Falco: "What are you co-ordinating there? Go on board! Coordinate the rescue from aboard the ship. Are you refusing?"

—Schettino: "No, I am not refusing."

—De Falco: "Are you refusing to go aboard commander? Can you tell me the reason why you are not going?"

—Schettino: "I am not going because the other lifeboat is stopped."

—De Falco: "You go aboard. It is an order. Don't make any more excuses. You have declared 'abandon ship.' Now I am in charge. You go on board! Is that clear? Do you hear me? Go, and call me when you are aboard. My air rescue crew is there."

—Schettino: "Where are your rescuers?"

—De Falco: "My air rescue is on the prow. Go. There are already bodies, Schettino."

—Schettino: "How many bodies are there?"

—De Falco: "I don't know. I have heard of one. You are the one who has to tell me how many there are. Christ."

—Schettino: "But do you realize it is dark and here we can't see anything..."

—De Falco: "And so what? You want go home, Schettino? It is dark and you want to go home? Get on that prow of the boat using the pilot ladder and tell me what can be done, how many people there are and what their needs are. Now!"

—Schettino: "...I am with my second in command."

—De Falco: "So both of you go up then ... You and your second go on board now. Is that clear?"

—Schettino: "Commander, I want to go on board, but it is simply that the other boat here ... there are other rescuers. It has stopped and is waiting..."

—De Falco: "It has been an hour that you have been telling me the same thing. Now, go on board. Go on board! And then tell me immediately how many people there are there."

—Schettino: "OK, commander"

—De Falco: "Go, immediately!"