Deficit Talks Fail

[Siege]

Shocking! Fucking no compromise morons.

Dems of Repubs?

Republicans. The Dems have offered big slashes in spending several times in the last few years in return for tax increases.

I disagree. The Dems are the ones that do not want to compromise.
They will not compromise, because the idea is that Obama, since he cannot compete agains the Tea Party, runs against "That congress that cannot compromise and does not have the willingness to act and solve our economic problems".

[Razgovory]

That doesn't even make sense.

[Siege]

Why have you guys become so Lefty?

[Admiral Yi]

I can't teach you everything grasshopper.

I understand that in your own mind this line of dialogue seems really clever, but to me and I suspect others it just sounds like tired old bullshit without any point.

[Razgovory]

A poll from last year. 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/144359/democrats-republicans-differ-views-compromise.aspx

Republicans are less likely to desire compromise then Democrats.  The problem I think lies in the GOP voters.

[Razgovory]

I can't teach you everything grasshopper.

I understand that in your own mind this line of dialogue seems really clever, but to me and I suspect others it just sounds like tired old bullshit without any point.

Cause I explained it to your four times before.  I'm tired of it. 

[Admiral Yi]

ossum

[Razgovory]

ossum

You were the one keeping count.  Just go look through those old threads.  You keep making remarks that come strait out of the Conservative echo chamber.  Now while your faith in the GOP is admirable, most of us don't share these absurd presumptions so when you say the President has "Chutzpah" for blaming congress it comes off as silly, quaint and after a while annoying.

[Ancient Demon]

I'm very disappointed with both parties.

[DGuller]

As a neutral and unbiased observer, I'm going to have to rule in Raz's favor.  Yi is known for attempting to tire out his opponents by getting them to repeat the same arguments again and again.

[MadImmortalMan]

A poll from last year. 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/144359/democrats-republicans-differ-views-compromise.aspx

Republicans are less likely to desire compromise then Democrats.  The problem I think lies in the GOP voters.

There are some historical reasons for that. The Reagan and Bush I budget deals both ended up with the GOP later losing the parts they thought they had gained (spending cuts mostly). The trust is gone. That's why the BBA is such a big topic for them. They want a mechanism that forces their gains to be kept in place. Personally, I wonder how much of that ground they lost was Bush II's fault, but hey.

[Admiral Yi]

As a neutral and unbiased observer

[jimmy olsen]

Yeah, but you never learn.

Learn what Raz?

You pretend to forget about Obama's offer and then act surprised when anyone ever brings it up.

I'm not an unbiased observer. I'm a member of the Republican party and have voted GOP in the last three elections.

[Razgovory]

There are some historical reasons for that. The Reagan and Bush I budget deals both ended up with the GOP later losing the parts they thought they had gained (spending cuts mostly). The trust is gone. That's why the BBA is such a big topic for them. They want a mechanism that forces their gains to be kept in place. Personally, I wonder how much of that ground they lost was Bush II's fault, but hey.

I think it has to do with the way Conservatives have been portraying the world.  They keep portraying their opponents not as wrong, but evil.  The Democrats are not blunderers or incompetent, or out of touch bleeding hearts.  They're actively trying to destroy America.  You don't compromise with the devil.  You don't meet someone halfway who is trying to kill you.  This is why I think conservatives are likely to engage in violence.  If you are convinced that someone is going to kill you, striking out against them first is a rational decision.  So those who believe in Death Panels and other nonsense may find they have no choice but resort to violence.

[Ancient Demon]

I think it has to do with the way Conservatives have been portraying the world.  They keep portraying their opponents not as wrong, but evil.  The Democrats are not blunderers or incompetent, or out of touch bleeding hearts.  They're actively trying to destroy America.  You don't compromise with the devil.  You don't meet someone halfway who is trying to kill you.  This is why I think conservatives are likely to engage in violence.  If you are convinced that someone is going to kill you, striking out against them first is a rational decision.  So those who believe in Death Panels and other nonsense may find they have no choice but resort to violence.

Yes, and that reminds me of this video from 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5_x_-v-k9w