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[Martinus]

Marty is right. Anti-semitism is a very new phenomenom, triggered by Israel's vocal support of falling Egyptian tyrant Mubarak.



So, I guess we are still on track to resolve this recession like the one in the 30s, ha?

Fuck off, IT tard. Israel is unpopular in the region, and its decades of dealings with the dictator (and supporting him as he was being toppled) certainly do not help that.

Sic semper tyrannis - and those who stand with them. I do not have any sympathy for a country that gets chummy with "our" tyrant and then acts all hurt when the people who suffered under the tyrant hate it for that.

[Martinus]

Anyway, when I speak of Israel in the above posts, I speak of the corrupt nationalist, settler and orthodox alliance that has held the Israeli politics in its grip for decades.

The real Israel's hope is in the Tel Aviv's State Square - and I root for them.

[Viking]

Anyway, when I speak of Israel in the above posts, I speak of the corrupt nationalist, settler and orthodox alliance that has held the Israeli politics in its grip for decades.

The real Israel's hope is in the Tel Aviv's State Square - and I root for them.

The rent control rabble is the real Israel's hope? WTF?

[LaCroix]

Fuck off, IT tard. Israel is unpopular in the region, and its decades of dealings with the dictator (and supporting him as he was being toppled) certainly do not help that.

Sic semper tyrannis - and those who stand with them. I do not have any sympathy for a country that gets chummy with "our" tyrant and then acts all hurt when the people who suffered under the tyrant hate it for that.

it's israel's fault that they had warm relations with a man who did not want to have them all murdered in their sleep, and who they could actually conduct diplomacy with? i think the people of egypt would have hated israel regardless of their conduct with the old "tyrant"

[dps]

Why are they protesting?

Israel's existence, I assume.

How about Israel's vocal support for Mubarak until the last moment, instead? Now they reap what they sow.

At least Obama was smart enough to switch the side America was on when he saw where the wind was blowing.

Frankly, I can't really blame Egyptians for disliking the Israelis over this. You can just as well wonder why Poland or the Baltics do not like the Soviets too much.

Actually, it's probably more like Poland's 1935 anti-aggression pact with Germany.  That's not a particularly good analogy, but it's better than comparing it to the relation between the Baltic States or Poland to Russia.  Mabye the post-WWII relations between the Finns and the Soviets would fit.

[Syt]

Austrian radio said this was a (rather late?) response to some Egyptian border dudes dieing during an Israeli retaliatory attack on Gaza recently?

[Razgovory]

Marty is right. Anti-semitism is a very new phenomenom, triggered by Israel's vocal support of falling Egyptian tyrant Mubarak.



So, I guess we are still on track to resolve this recession like the one in the 30s, ha?

Fuck off, IT tard. Israel is unpopular in the region, and its decades of dealings with the dictator (and supporting him as he was being toppled) certainly do not help that.

Sic semper tyrannis - and those who stand with them. I do not have any sympathy for a country that gets chummy with "our" tyrant and then acts all hurt when the people who suffered under the tyrant hate it for that.

Perfect example.  Turkey isn't becoming more anti-Israel because it's leaning more toward Asia.  It's becoming more anti-Israel because it's leaning toward Europe.

[Sheilbh]

Didn't Turkey start military cooperation with Egypt recently? I don't think Turkey (not to mention, a lot of other countries in the region) would sit idly on their hands if Israel invaded Egypt.

I don't think it was anything formal but they're getting closer and Erdogan's visiting Cairo next week.

it's israel's fault that they had warm relations with a man who did not want to have them all murdered in their sleep, and who they could actually conduct diplomacy with? i think the people of egypt would have hated israel regardless of their conduct with the old "tyrant"

Let's not mythologise Mubarak as a friend of Israel.  He did business with Israel and then blamed them for everything wrong with Egypt, including the revolution.  He never visited Israel and, as the Qatari Emir was wikileaked saying, Mubarak wasn't interested in helping the peace process or anything like that except in so far as it helped him.  I think that's in contrast to, say, Sadat or even Suleiman.


But I think this is what's shifted in the Middle East, the people now matter.  I think it's going to lead to far more pressure on Palestine but the day of Israel simply dealing with 'moderate' tyrants whether openly (Egypt and Jordan) or discreetly (Saudi) are over, I think that's disconcerting and will be difficult, especially for Bibi to manage.

[Neil]

Anyway, when I speak of Israel in the above posts, I speak of the corrupt nationalist, settler and orthodox alliance that has held the Israeli politics in its grip for decades.

The real Israel's hope is in the Tel Aviv's State Square - and I root for them.

The rent control rabble is the real Israel's hope? WTF?

He saw a movie or read an article in a fag mag.

[Neil]

How about Israel's vocal support for Mubarak until the last moment, instead? Now they reap what they sow.

You're confusing cause and effect.  The Israelis supported Mubbarak because the Egyptian people are dedicated to the extermination of every Jew, everywhere.

[LaCroix]

He did business with Israel

now let's not mythologize mubarak as a friend of israel

[Ancient Demon]

How about Israel's vocal support for Mubarak until the last moment, instead? Now they reap what they sow.

At least Obama was smart enough to switch the side America was on when he saw where the wind was blowing.

Frankly, I can't really blame Egyptians for disliking the Israelis over this. You can just as well wonder why Poland or the Baltics do not like the Soviets too much.

You must be very ignorant of the region and its history to think Israeli support for Mubarak is the reason Egyptians hate Israel.

[Sheilbh]

I just read that apparently the same group that went from State Security to the Israeli Embassy tried to set up a protest outside the Saudi Embassy too and were tear gassed away before it could get settled.  That sounds to me like this was against counter-revolutionary forces and (possibly) the Israelis were allowed to bear the brunt.

Given the growing dissatisfaction with the SCAF and the Egyptian government (and I had high hopes for 'I draw my legitimacy from you!' Sharaf) it feels sort of like we've already slid away from 1789 and are heading to '92.

[Neil]

1789?  Egypt doesn't have native, violently nationalist intellectuals that could produce that sort of result.

[Zoupa]

Marty is right. Anti-semitism is a very new phenomenom, triggered by Israel's vocal support of falling Egyptian tyrant Mubarak.



So, I guess we are still on track to resolve this recession like the one in the 30s, ha?

Fuck off, IT tard. Israel is unpopular in the region, and its decades of dealings with the dictator (and supporting him as he was being toppled) certainly do not help that.

Sic semper tyrannis - and those who stand with them. I do not have any sympathy for a country that gets chummy with "our" tyrant and then acts all hurt when the people who suffered under the tyrant hate it for that.

Perfect example.  Turkey isn't becoming more anti-Israel because it's leaning more toward Asia.  It's becoming more anti-Israel because it's leaning toward Europe.

I think this is the 4th similar attempt to troll some poor euro into "arguing" with you in the last couple of days.

I'm sorry it's not working out so far.