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[SPOILERS] A Dance With Dragons

Started by Viking, July 12, 2011, 03:50:12 PM

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Solmyr

Quote from: Razgovory on August 11, 2011, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 11, 2011, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on August 11, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
I thought he was explicitly mentioned as a Stark. Brynden Stark.

No, Bran says he has an uncle Brynden (the Blackfish), Lord Brynden then suggests that the Blackfish might be named after himself.

he seems most likely to be

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brynden_Rivers


Why do Albinos become badasses in Fantasy?  When in reality they just die early or are eaten by Africans.

There are no Africans in ASOIAF.

Viking

Quote from: Solmyr on August 12, 2011, 05:09:52 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 11, 2011, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 11, 2011, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on August 11, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
I thought he was explicitly mentioned as a Stark. Brynden Stark.

No, Bran says he has an uncle Brynden (the Blackfish), Lord Brynden then suggests that the Blackfish might be named after himself.

he seems most likely to be

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brynden_Rivers


Why do Albinos become badasses in Fantasy?  When in reality they just die early or are eaten by Africans.

There are no Africans in ASOIAF.

I fear for the Albinos of the Summer Isles.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Razgovory on August 12, 2011, 02:58:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 11, 2011, 08:53:35 PM


Michael Moorcock sez so.

Even when I was 13 I could recognize that he was a shit writer.  I'm not even talking about plot and characterization but simply the ability to string words together and make them aesthetically pleasing.

A while back, the sci fi book club had his Elric books in omnibus form. I decided I'd get them and re-read them. Holy crap was it bad. I hadn't remembered how emo that shit was.  :lol:
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: The Larch on August 12, 2011, 02:24:50 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 11, 2011, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on August 11, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
I thought he was explicitly mentioned as a Stark. Brynden Stark.

No, Bran says he has an uncle Brynden (the Blackfish), Lord Brynden then suggests that the Blackfish might be named after himself.

he seems most likely to be

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brynden_Rivers

It's not just likely, he is quite clearly Bloodraven.

D'oh. Not sure why I was convinced he was a Stark. Must have gotten confused.
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Barrister

Quote from: Ed Anger on August 12, 2011, 07:16:39 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 12, 2011, 02:58:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 11, 2011, 08:53:35 PM


Michael Moorcock sez so.

Even when I was 13 I could recognize that he was a shit writer.  I'm not even talking about plot and characterization but simply the ability to string words together and make them aesthetically pleasing.

A while back, the sci fi book club had his Elric books in omnibus form. I decided I'd get them and re-read them. Holy crap was it bad. I hadn't remembered how emo that shit was.  :lol:

Well then Raz was a more astute reader at age 13 than I was (well, I think I was more like 11 or 12).  I thought they were cool then.

On a quick re-read 5 years ago?  Wow.   :Embarrass:
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Legbiter

#185
Just finished it.

Not exactly thrilled with it. Martin's still moving pieces, the whole book reads exactly like the second half of Feast for Crows. Also, too many POV's.

And I'm not a fan of how Martin wrote Dany. She tossed a guy on a funeral pyre out of pique and had the Unsullied trash Astapor but now all of a sudden she's paralyzed into inaction because she's afraid her dragons might nibble on some Meereenese?  :mad:
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Legbiter

Although Wyman Manderly baking the missing Freys into pies was a nice touch I'll admit.
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Viking

Quote from: Legbiter on August 12, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
Although Wyman Manderly baking the missing Freys into pies was a nice touch I'll admit.

Manderly is one of my new favourite characters.. though he does remind me suspiciously of Martin himself, what with this extreme fatness, extreme stark loyalty and all round general late delivery of promised products.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Legbiter

Quote from: Viking on August 12, 2011, 05:57:09 PM
Manderly is one of my new favourite characters.. though he does remind me suspiciously of Martin himself, what with this extreme fatness, extreme stark loyalty and all round general late delivery of promised products.

Yep, the thought crossed my mind as well.  :lol:

I just wish he'd done something more spectacular at Winterfell. Hell, I wish Martin had written up a big battle between Stannis and the Boltons but alas, it's all off-screen at best. Seriously, absolutly nothing of note has happened in the series for 10 years now.

And since he's killed off Jon Snow the whole Wall part of the series has pretty much gone off the rails. I mean who's left to care about at the Wall?
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Iormlund


Ed Anger

I'm surprised fatty hasn't made Twinkie the Kid lord of Winterfell.

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Legbiter

Quote from: Iormlund on August 12, 2011, 06:28:19 PM
Zombie Jon, Lord of Winterfell.

Heh, why not. Zombie Catelyn is still running around somewhere.
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Legbiter

Quote from: Ed Anger on August 12, 2011, 06:32:28 PM
I'm surprised fatty hasn't made Twinkie the Kid lord of Winterfell.

Sigh...yeah I could tolerate Martin's meandering writing if he was cranking out a new book every year or 2 but we'll have to wait 5 or 6 years for the next one and of course the fat bastard will never live long enough to complete the series. <_<

Well, at least I never started reading the Wheel of Time books.
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Viking

Quote from: Legbiter on August 12, 2011, 06:25:02 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 12, 2011, 05:57:09 PM
Manderly is one of my new favourite characters.. though he does remind me suspiciously of Martin himself, what with this extreme fatness, extreme stark loyalty and all round general late delivery of promised products.

Yep, the thought crossed my mind as well.  :lol:

I just wish he'd done something more spectacular at Winterfell. Hell, I wish Martin had written up a big battle between Stannis and the Boltons but alas, it's all off-screen at best. Seriously, absolutly nothing of note has happened in the series for 10 years now.

And since he's killed off Jon Snow the whole Wall part of the series has pretty much gone off the rails. I mean who's left to care about at the Wall?

You Know Nothing Jon Snow. Melisandre the Red Priestess, following the same religion as Thoros of Myr and having recieved the same training as Thoros of Myr, might just get it into her head to do to Jon what Thoros did, repeatedly, to Berric Dondarrion.

The NW oath of course expires at the death of the oath taker. This releases Jon from his oath (since he has died and returned to life) and allows him to take the Thenns as well as other renegade wildlings and Karstarks loyal to Alys and he new husband to romp down south to retake Winterfell for House Stark just in time to meet up with Manderly (along with little Rickon) before Stannis (the battle was against Mors Umbers mummers siege) legitimizes Jon as a Stark. Rickon, refusing to become either Lord Stark or King in the North on the grounds that Bran still lives, makes Jon castellan of winterfell and his mighty hosts of the pupils of Jeor (Jon Snow), Jorah (Dany) and Alysane (Asha) will unite the forces of Greyjoy, Targaryen and Stark to smite the Lannisters leaving little Lanna Lannister (Tyrions daughter by the sailors wife viz. Tysha Lannister) as mistress of Casterly Rock.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Siege

Viking, you are out of your mind.
Jon is dead, Dany only think of sucking cock, and Asha will get powned the moment she place a foot on the iron islands.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"