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Started by Josquius, April 04, 2011, 03:39:14 AM

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The Larch

#1095
May 20, 2011, 05:26:43 AM Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 08:43:58 AM by The Larch
Regarding Beric Dondarrion and Thoros of Myr, I'd guess that many secondary or tertiary characters will be scrapped or merged, so it's no wonder that they haven't gotten any screentime yet.

For instance, the Blackfish Brynden Tully hasn't been mentioned yet, even though he's supposed to be at the Vale.

jimmy olsen

#1096
May 20, 2011, 08:17:04 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 20, 2011, 04:59:13 AM
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Which is really my point isnt it.  They have added material for no particular reason (or rather reasons other than being try to the books) at the cost of not including great material that was in the books.  Rather than seeing shaving scene I would rather have seen the flaming sword in action during the tournament - as just one example of the really interesting stuff missed because of this alt version of the books.
Definitely. Its going to be weird for Thoros to totally pop out of nowhere. He and Beric already sort of do, I can't recall them appearing early in the books beside people talking about them a little and they've been doing this somewhat with Thoros in the series but still....seeing the melee would have ruled.
Jamie and Jory talked about Thoros during their conversation, so it won't be out of nowhere.

EDIT: GRRM said the Blackfish will be in the next season.
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The Brain

#1097
May 20, 2011, 08:19:27 AM
Bläckfisk in Swedish means octopus/squid. :hmm:
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The Larch

#1098
May 20, 2011, 09:39:07 AM
http://grrm.livejournal.com/217066.html

VERY interesting entry on Martin's blog about the next book, with lots of tidbits about chapters, length, POVs, new characters and so on.

Valmy

#1099
May 20, 2011, 09:42:10 AM
Yes that was a very interesting not-a-blog post.

New POVs (IMO):

Melisandre
Quentyn Martell
Barristan The Bold
New character we have never seen before.

Not counting the Prologue and Epilogue guys who die of course.
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Berkut

#1100
May 20, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
I heard Winds of Winter is going to be delayed though.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Valmy

#1101
May 20, 2011, 09:48:32 AM Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 09:53:49 AM by Valmy
Educated guesses on the returning ones:

Tyrion Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Jon Snow
Davos Seaworth
Bran Stark
Asha Greyjoy
Victarion Greyjoy
Another returning Greyjoy...but not Damphair...Theon?  Yeah it must be...odd.
Cersei Lannister
Jaime Lannister
Arya Stark
Areo Hotah
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#1102
May 20, 2011, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 20, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
I heard Winds of Winter is going to be delayed though.

I am not expecting it until 2017 :P
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Berkut

#1103
May 20, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
I am guessing we are going to see POV from Catelyn.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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The Larch

#1104
May 20, 2011, 09:58:04 AM Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 09:59:41 AM by The Larch
Quote from: Valmy on May 20, 2011, 09:48:32 AM
Educated guesses on the returning ones:

Tyrion Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Jon Snow
Davos Seaworth
Bran Stark
Asha Greyjoy
Victarion Greyjoy
Another returning Greyjoy...but not Damphair...Theon?  Yeah it must be...odd.
Cersei Lannister
Jaime Lannister
Arya Stark
Areo Hotah

Wiki to the rescue!  :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dance_with_Dragons#Characters

Damn, there was lot of info about it already out.

Regarding your Greyjoy guess, from the link:

Quote- Reek: Theon Greyjoy, presumed-dead son of recently deceased King Balon Greyjoy of the Iron Islands, a captive of Ramsay Bolton and now tortured, starved and barely sane.

Also, check the part at the end:

QuotePOV chapters for Sansa Stark, Samwell Tarly, Aeron Damphair, Arianne Martell, and Brienne of Tarth were written for the book, but they will instead tentatively appear in the next book, The Winds of Winter.

So we know what she said when about to be hanged...

Valmy

#1105
May 20, 2011, 09:59:12 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 20, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
I am guessing we are going to see POV from Catelyn.

That would be...interesting.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#1106
May 20, 2011, 10:00:23 AM
Ah ok.  Yeah that sounds like Ramsay.

More Boltons is more fun.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#1107
May 20, 2011, 10:02:05 AM
Quote from: The Larch on May 20, 2011, 09:58:04 AM
So we know what she said when about to be hanged...

Well I know GRRM likes to kill the good people but if she dies her whole story arc in AFFC would be just a really long red herring.

Well unless he makes Podrick a new POV or something.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Maximus

#1108
May 20, 2011, 10:24:24 AM
So Stoneheart's making a PoV appearance?

Viking

#1109
May 20, 2011, 10:25:02 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 20, 2011, 08:19:27 AM
Bläckfisk in Swedish means octopus/squid. :hmm:


Inkfish /= Blackfish
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