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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: The Brain on February 17, 2015, 02:39:37 PM
What the hell is a 90s action star? All action movies were made in the 80s.

:huh: Quite a few Dolph action movies were made in the '90s such as Army of One, Universal Soldier, Bridge of Dragons (LULZ) or Showdown in Little Tokyo.

The Brain

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 17, 2015, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 17, 2015, 02:39:37 PM
What the hell is a 90s action star? All action movies were made in the 80s.

:huh: Quite a few Dolph action movies were made in the '90s such as Army of One, Universal Soldier, Bridge of Dragons (LULZ) or Showdown in Little Tokyo.

You can't honestly expect me to modify my position.
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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: The Brain on February 17, 2015, 05:13:34 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 17, 2015, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 17, 2015, 02:39:37 PM
What the hell is a 90s action star? All action movies were made in the 80s.

:huh: Quite a few Dolph action movies were made in the '90s such as Army of One, Universal Soldier, Bridge of Dragons (LULZ) or Showdown in Little Tokyo.

You can't honestly expect me to modify my position.

I expected you to know better your Dolph classics. :(

Berkut

#25833
I don't get the idea that IE was either great or terrible. It was just what it set out to be, summer blockbuster action flick.

I thought it was ok. Was not dissapointed, but not good enough to rise to the level of "Is this a movie that will cause me to stop when channel surfing..."?
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lustindarkness

The moment Will Smith punches the alien and then proceeds to his cigar made ID4 the best action flick of the time.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: viper37 on February 17, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
How is he a pussy in that, compared to, say, Tom Cruise in Top Gun or Clint Eastwood in that movie where he steals a prototype Mig-31?

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Ideologue

#25837
Will Smith is a good, good counter, and I probably only forgot him because I'm a terrible racist :(  But in my defense, his roles tended to not be the same kind of action hero represented by Reeves, Statham, or Cage or, in the previous era, Sly and Blackblack--MIB and Independence Day didn't show up on my radar when I asked the question.  In ID4, particularly, it's hard to square his exploits in airpower with the man-portable badassery of Terminator, Predator, Point Blank, The Matrix, et al.  Jimmy Stewarts may win the war--that's surely not in any dispute--but it's the Audie Murphies who give it that personal touch.

Anyway, ID4 is a great movie, possibly the best straight alien invasion flick they ever made.  It's not like its template in War of the Worlds is any more sensible--any civilization capable of space travel has probably come up with the germ theory of disease.  Who the hell is running Mars, the GOP?  Honestly, ID4 positing that the 50 years of reverse engineering the alien systems weren't wasted is a great deal less dumb.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 17, 2015, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 17, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
How is he a pussy in that, compared to, say, Tom Cruise in Top Gun or Clint Eastwood in that movie where he steals a prototype Mig-31?

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I must watch that again.  :)
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Duque de Bragança

#25839

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 17, 2015, 04:28:59 PM
1996
Will Smith stars in Independence Day, helping to usher in an era of action movies in which special effects are more important than gratuitous violence/overt homosexuality. Action stars become child-friendly pussies.

Quote from: viper37 on February 17, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
How is he a pussy in that, compared to, say, Tom Cruise in Top Gun or Clint Eastwood in that movie where he steals a prototype Mig-31?

Check again the homoeroticism in Top Gun, for instance the volley-ball scene. Then the '80s Action Ruthless guide and their reviews :)

Ideologue

Quote from: celedhring on February 17, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
Also, I'll raise Bruce Willis for contention as "90s action star". Die Hard is his only 80s action film, while he's got the two good Die Hard sequels, Last Man Standing, The Last Boy Scout, The Fifth Element, Armageddon... and a bunch of others in the 90s.

Of course, if Willis counts, Willis wins.  It's really quite unfair.

And God bless you for saying Die Harder is good. :hug:
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Ed Anger

I've only watched the first 2 Die Hard movies.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 17, 2015, 06:31:51 PM
Check again the homoeroticism in Top Gun, for instance the volley-ball scene.

And the other homoerotic hints, like--

1) The unambiguously gay call signs:  Slider? Wolfman? Goose?
2) How Goose is always behind Maverick in the "cockpit" of the F-14, because that's their preferred sex position, and not the heterosexualism of the F-111A;
3) How Iceman twirls the phallic pen with his fingers, an obvious reference to a handjob;
4) James Tolkan, another phallic symbol;
5) Casting a lesbian in the lead female role, and naming her "Charlie" to boot;
6) Tim Robbins as Merlin, who would be assraped later in Shawshank Redemption.

Not even the full faith and credit of Michael Fucking Ironside could save that film from that homo indoctrinal whackfest of a movie.

Admiral Yi

Which movie was it that Tarentino talks about the gayness of Top Gun?  It was a bit part.

Hose?  Celery?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ideologue on February 17, 2015, 06:33:46 PM
Quote from: celedhring on February 17, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
Also, I'll raise Bruce Willis for contention as "90s action star". Die Hard is his only 80s action film, while he's got the two good Die Hard sequels, Last Man Standing, The Last Boy Scout, The Fifth Element, Armageddon... and a bunch of others in the 90s.

Of course, if Willis counts, Willis wins.  It's really quite unfair.

And God bless you for saying Die Harder is good. :hug:

Thing is, I don't think Willis does count in your "Keanu of the 90s is teh bestest" discussion: you guys are forgetting exactly how much of an impact Die Hard actually had in 1988. It actually changed the entire genre. 
In that case, even if it was Willis' first action movie, you only need one like that under your belt.