UK-Israel relations hit the rocks over Dubai assanation

[ulmont]

So go fuck yourself you miserable piece of shit retarded scum idiot who should have been aborted.

Stay classy Martinus.   

hmm... I think I may have said that exact phrase once or twice before...

"go fuck yourself you miserable piece of shit retarded scum idiot who should have been aborted"?  Yeah, once or twice, but not very often.

[Barrister]

So go fuck yourself you miserable piece of shit retarded scum idiot who should have been aborted.

Stay classy Martinus.   

hmm... I think I may have said that exact phrase once or twice before...

I am who I am. If I watched my tongue on an internet board full of strangers, where would I get my daily dose of rage relief?

Martinus called me a stranger.

[Savonarola]

Martinus called me a stranger.

Have you ever shot an Arab?

[Malthus]

 

Ah, Languish.

Anyway ... to my mind the real issue is the morality of ordering assassinations in the first place, and in employing spies and assassins.

Can't see that as any worse that using drones to blow up specific folks your country does not like - something that both the UK and US does.

One you have decided using spies or assassins is okay, using false passports is a mere bagatelle. In the case of Israel, it's a necessity, as most Arab countries won't let folks in on an Israeli passport at all.

[Tamas]

So go fuck yourself you miserable piece of shit retarded scum idiot who should have been aborted.

Stay classy Martinus.   

hmm... I think I may have said that exact phrase once or twice before...

I am who I am. If I watched my tongue on an internet board full of strangers, where would I get my daily dose of rage relief?

Martinus called me a stranger.

You got off quite easy then.

And Marty, personally, your comment, -altough I did not care much, certainly not enough to comment- made me slightly sick because it is exactly the first reaction I could expect from my (on varying level) antisemite countrymen.

[Barrister]

Martinus called me a stranger.

Have you ever shot an Arab?

The Cure...

[Razgovory]

Ah, Languish.

Anyway ... to my mind the real issue is the morality of ordering assassinations in the first place, and in employing spies and assassins.

Can't see that as any worse that using drones to blow up specific folks your country does not like - something that both the UK and US does.

One you have decided using spies or assassins is okay, using false passports is a mere bagatelle. In the case of Israel, it's a necessity, as most Arab countries won't let folks in on an Israeli passport at all.

You have to admit.  We do have our own unique charm.  Everyone might be throwing vicious racial slurs one moment and then jump on someone for being a racist the next.  I admit it can be a bit confusing for the observer.

[Savonarola]

Martinus called me a stranger.

Have you ever shot an Arab?

The Cure...

Camus rocks harder.

[derspiess]

Somehow let this thread get to 7 pages before I saw it.  "Assanation" + Marty's antisemitic rant = pure comedy gold.

[Agelastus]

Ah, Languish.

Anyway ... to my mind the real issue is the morality of ordering assassinations in the first place, and in employing spies and assassins.

Can't see that as any worse that using drones to blow up specific folks your country does not like - something that both the UK and US does.

One you have decided using spies or assassins is okay, using false passports is a mere bagatelle. In the case of Israel, it's a necessity, as most Arab countries won't let folks in on an Israeli passport at all.

I wouldn't have given a damn if they used Russian passports, for example. I have no problem with Israel killing a member of Hamas (although I will probably be jumped upon for that.)

But Israel has promised in the past not to use our passports, and is also seenby us as something of an ally. What they have done (or appear to have done) is both impolite and offensive. You don't break promises or abuse an ally in this fashion.

Not to mention associating Britain with such an apparently sloppy operation is insulting.

[Fate]

Britain is not an ally, it is merely a tool. You're a fool to think the Jews believe otherwise.

[Agelastus]

Britain is not an ally, it is merely a tool. You're a fool to think the Jews believe otherwise.

I said "seen by us as something of" not "is" - a perception that comes as much as anything from the current "us against them" attitude the Western world is adopting towards Islam.

[Ed Anger]

Rage Quit in 5...4...3...2....1.......

[Maximus]

I am who I am. If I watched my tongue on an internet board full of strangers, where would I get my daily dose of rage relief?

Interesting you should be the one whining about hostility.

[Malthus]

I wouldn't have given a damn if they used Russian passports, for example. I have no problem with Israel killing a member of Hamas (although I will probably be jumped upon for that.)

But Israel has promised in the past not to use our passports, and is also seenby us as something of an ally. What they have done (or appear to have done) is both impolite and offensive. You don't break promises or abuse an ally in this fashion.

Not to mention associating Britain with such an apparently sloppy operation is insulting.

Again, seems to me something of a bagatelle. Given that you later state that the "ally" status extends to the entire Western world, that would eliminate using pretty well any convincing false first-world papers - something that I assume most spies and assassins use.

Breaking promises is bad, in the same way that gentlemen do not read each other's mail. Gentlemen also do not use spies and assassins.

As for the sloppiness of the operation - none of the agents were caught and the guy was assassinated, without any innocents killed in the cross-fire. Things could be a whole lot sloppier.