Terror attack foiled on Northwest Airlines flight

Started by Weatherman, December 25, 2009, 06:45:46 PM

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Syt

YAY! MORE SECURATAY!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html

QuoteIn the wake of the terrorism attempt Friday on a Northwest Airlines flight, federal officials on Saturday imposed new restrictions on travelers that could lengthen lines at airports and limit the ability of international passengers to move about an airplane.

The government was vague about the steps it was taking, saying that it wanted the security experience to be "unpredictable" and that passengers would not find the same measures at every airport — a prospect that may upset airlines and travelers alike.

But several airlines released detailed information about the restrictions, saying that passengers on international flights coming to the United States will apparently have to remain in their seats for the last hour of a flight without any personal items on their laps. It was not clear how often the rule would affect domestic flights.

Overseas passengers will be restricted to only one carry-on item, and domestic passengers will probably face longer security lines. That was already the case in some airports Saturday, in the United States and overseas.

The restrictions will again change the routine of air travel, which has undergone an upheaval since the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington in September 2001 and three later attempts at air terrorism.

Soon after the attempt on Friday, travelers at airports around the world began experiencing heightened screening in security lines. On one flight, from Newark Liberty International Airport to Little Rock, Ark., flight attendants kept cabin lights on for the entire trip instead of dimming them for takeoff and landing.

The limits, which brought to mind some of the most stringent policies after the 2001 attacks, come at a difficult time for the airline industry.

Travel has declined about 20 percent since 2008 because of the economy, and airlines have been dealing with numerous delays in the past week because of snowstorms on the East Coast and in the Midwest.

Airline industry executives said the new steps would complicate travel as vacationers return home from holiday trips and could also cause travelers to cancel plans for flights in 2010.

But the government seemed to discount those concerns. The homeland security secretary, Janet Napolitano, said in a statement Saturday that new measures were "designed to be unpredictable, so passengers should not expect to see the same thing everywhere." She said passengers should proceed with their holiday plans and "as always, be observant and aware of their surroundings and report any suspicious behavior or activity to law enforcement officials."

The Transportation Security Administration, which governs security at airports and on airplanes in the United States, had no immediate comment on the steps. There also was no statement from the Air Transport Association, the trade group for American carriers.

Two foreign airlines, Air Canada and British Airways, disclosed the steps in notices on their Web sites. The airlines said the rules had been implemented by government security agencies including the T.S.A.

"Among other things," the statement on Air Canada's Web site read, "during the final hour of flight customers must remain seated, will not be allowed to access carry-on baggage, or have personal belongings or other items on their laps."

The suspect in the Friday attempt, identified as Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, tried to ignite his incendiary device in the final hour of the flight while the plane was descending into Detroit.

On its Web site, American Airlines said the T.S.A. had ordered new measures for flights departing from foreign locations to the United States, including mandatory screening of all passengers at airport gates during the boarding process. All carry-on items would be screened at security checkpoints and again at boarding, the airline said. It urged passengers to leave extra time for screening and boarding.

In effect, the restrictions mean that passengers on flights of 90 minutes or less would most likely not be able to leave their seats at all, since airlines do not allow passengers to walk around the cabin while a plane is climbing to its cruising altitude.

The new restrictions began to be instituted Saturday on flights from Canada and Europe to the United States. Air Canada said it was waiving fees for the first checked bag, and it told passengers to be prepared for delays, cancellations and missed connections because of the new limits.

At airports Saturday, travelers recounted the immediate differences they experienced. Though passengers arriving from Frankfurt passed speedily through customs at Kennedy Airport in New York, they said that in Germany the security was intensified.

"I really was surprised," one passenger, Eva Clesle, said about the level of scrutiny in Frankfurt, adding that officials had inspected backpacks by opening "every single zip."

In Rochester, N.Y., a passenger waiting in a security line said she had seen other passengers removed for additional screening.

Many of Air Canada's flights in and out of La Guardia Airport in New York were canceled or delayed, and ticket agents blamed new security screenings.


Actually, I think the best way to handle inflight security would be to have all passengers sedated for the duration of the flight. Personally, I would much rather be put to sleep for 9 or 10 hours and stored in a bunk bed for transatlantic flights than having to spend the time trying to ignore the people around me, cramped in a seat that allows no leg freedom.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Syt on December 27, 2009, 01:23:13 AM
Actually, I think the best way to handle inflight security would be to have all passengers sedated for the duration of the flight. Personally, I would much rather be put to sleep for 9 or 10 hours and stored in a bunk bed for transatlantic flights than having to spend the time trying to ignore the people around me, cramped in a seat that allows no leg freedom.

Hmm, now we just need some altruistic terrorist to come up with a scheme that would require increasing legroom and wider seats as the security solution.

Richard Hakluyt

If the new security arrangements prevent just one terrorist from setting his balls alight then they will be justified  :huh:

Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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Richard Hakluyt

This guy's father had contacted US authorities, with concerns about his son's extreme political views, prior to the flight taking place :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8431470.stm


Crazy_Ivan80

why not stop airtravel to, from and in the US alltogether?
would result in a 100% succesrate in stopping terror on the airlines flying there

HisMajestyBOB

QuoteBut several airlines released detailed information about the restrictions, saying that passengers on international flights coming to the United States will apparently have to remain in their seats for the last hour of a flight without any personal items on their laps. It was not clear how often the rule would affect domestic flights.

What the fuck?
I'm guessing this will also include paperback books, iPods, and a notepad and pencil.
Maybe I'll fly back to Canada, then take a short flight from there to DC. Or I'll swim.
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Syt

Perhaps the flight attendants will conduct a meditational program during the hour pre-landing?
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Martinus


DisturbedPervert

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 27, 2009, 05:45:01 AM
Maybe I'll fly back to Canada, then take a short flight from there to DC.

Followed by the 12 hour interrogation about why you didn't fly directly in to the US   :lol:

Richard Hakluyt

I've given up on the flying for the time being; I can't reconcile current "security" procedures with having a good time.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 27, 2009, 05:57:04 AM
I've given up on the flying for the time being; I can't reconcile current "security" procedures with having a good time.

mh, I'll be flying into Egypt soon and maybe a trip to the US later next year but after that I guess I'll avoid taking the plane too. Too much hassle.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 27, 2009, 04:23:13 AM
why not stop airtravel to, from and in the US alltogether?
would result in a 100% succesrate in stopping terror on the airlines flying there

Works for me.
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So after the Shoebomber they start checking our shoes, are they gonna start checking all our underwear now? :moon:
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Razgovory

What about these reports that his dad is a Nigerian banker?  I didn't think those actually existed.   Now at least I know who has been sending me those Emails.
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