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Did Obama Snub the Nobel Prize Committee?

Started by Faeelin, December 10, 2009, 09:16:54 AM

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derspiess

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 11, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
I am eagerly awaiting the reaction from the peacenik left to what was essentially a neocon speech by Obama.

I'm a little disappointed with what I've heard so far :(
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: derspiess on December 11, 2009, 11:54:57 AM
I'm a little disappointed with what I've heard so far :(
Disappointed how?  Not enough gnashing of teeth and rending of garments for your taste?

Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on December 11, 2009, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 11, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
I am eagerly awaiting the reaction from the peacenik left to what was essentially a neocon speech by Obama.

I'm a little disappointed with what I've heard so far :(

They guzzled down Obama's hawkish speech as he blasted them in the face again, bukakke style.
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LaCroix

Quote from: grumbler on December 11, 2009, 11:41:03 AM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 11, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
all this based off a misunderstanding of a poorly worded post  :weep:
Not really, and I am astonished that you would even notice.

I am just in this for the amusement.  I would urge everyone who isn't amused by this kind of thing to avert their eyes.
i haven't been following the last few pages of the back-and-forth, i referred to the initial cause. if it's continued for some 7 pages in mostly jest, then there you go

Brazen

I see Will Smith was in the audience, obviously studying Obama for when he inevitably plays him.

KRonn

Quote from: Brazen on December 11, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
I see Will Smith was in the audience, obviously studying Obama for when he inevitably plays him.
Hehe...

grumbler

Quote from: Tyr on December 11, 2009, 11:39:31 AM
That was not a quote, it was a over simplification.
Your explanation for quoting is that it was not a quote, but was rather was the exact opposite of a quote?  You can weasel better than that!


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QuoteThe basis of my entire argument is that you know what I did and thought better than I do?   :lmfao:  Okay, dance some more on your crank!
Now you're getting desperate. You know fine well what I mean yet avoid the point.
You have lost me again.  I am afraid that I don't know what you say I know. You need to tell me what I know you meant, because I don't know.

QuoteOK, it changes everything. What does it mean then?
If one is a fake, one is being dishonest.  Since "fake" is the term you use to describe Obama, you are calling him dishonest - in other words, blaming him (which you now claim you never did).

Quote:yawn:
What is it with you and small furry ferret-brethren?
Sorry, I forgot you are not a native Englsih-speaker.  There are meanings of the word weasel other than "small furry ferret-brethren."  I leave them for you to discover.

QuoteOf course I'm using ad hominim (look at my big scary italics!).
Good man!  If you can begin to acknowledge your logical fallacies, you can begin to address them.  :hug:

QuoteThere's no argument to be had yet you insist you have one with me so what else is there. Its pretty fun to watch you over analyse someone calling you dumb without realising quite why what you're saying is dumb.
Glad you are enjoying your name-calling exercise, because I am as well.
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Josquius

#112
Quote from: grumbler on December 11, 2009, 12:58:13 PM
Your explanation for quoting is that it was not a quote, but was rather was the exact opposite of a quote?  You can weasel better than that!
¿qué?

QuoteIf one is a fake, one is being dishonest.  Since "fake" is the term you use to describe Obama, you are calling him dishonest - in other words, blaming him (which you now claim you never did).
No, if one is fake one is not real. In other words he's not a real Nobel prize winner. i.e. he's not deserving.
Fault isn't mentioned at all, to do so would be akin to in the middle of a discussion on the holocaust randomly saying "IT WAS THE NAZIS WHAT DID IT!!!". Yeah. No shit Sherlock.

QuoteSorry, I forgot you are not a native Englsih-speaker.  There are meanings of the word weasel other than "small furry ferret-brethren."  I leave them for you to discover.


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Good man!  If you can begin to acknowledge your logical fallacies, you can begin to address them.  :hug:
Now, can you be a big boy and do the same?


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Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 11, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
I am eagerly awaiting the reaction from the peacenik left to what was essentially a neocon speech by Obama.
It wasn't neoconish.
Let's bomb Russia!

Syt

Quote from: grumbler on December 11, 2009, 09:41:00 AM
I am simply pointing out that his "arguments" are just a mishmash of ad hioms, personal attacks, unilateral declarations of victory, and (now) strawmen.

None of this is really debatable, but rather than responding to what i am saying, he is just repeating the fallacies over and over.  I am enjoying it, so I keep responding.

It's what grumbler does when he rubs one off. :yes:
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Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 11, 2009, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 11, 2009, 11:54:57 AM
I'm a little disappointed with what I've heard so far :(
Disappointed how?  Not enough gnashing of teeth and rending of garments for your taste?

This is what happens when you guys drink to much of your own kool aid.  You build up some bizarre picture of your opponents and then are genuinely confused when reality doesn't match up.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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DGuller

Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2009, 02:40:06 PM
This is what happens when you guys drink to much of your own kool aid.  You build up some bizarre picture of your opponents and then are genuinely confused when reality doesn't match up.
I don't think that's really the problem.  Reality not matching up is a problem only for people who eventually get in touch with reality.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2009, 02:40:06 PM
This is what happens when you guys drink to much of your own kool aid.  You build up some bizarre picture of your opponents and then are genuinely confused when reality doesn't match up.
You may well be right, but wouldn't it make sense to know what my expectations and the reactions are before concluding that?

Shelf: essentially.