Immigration... yet again

[derspiess]

I thought Jaron came here to make Spiess burritos? 

Speaking of which, green tomatillo salsa but NO GUAC 

[Valmy]

Why would you have a hard time picturing that? Crossing the national border is the hard part. Going from California or Texas to Iowa is easy.

Because the population is 97% white and probably even more so in the rural ares.  Same in Oklahoma where I used to work on farms.

[derspiess]

There is something to be said that a more diverse society is going to be better able to compete internationally. Academia would also suffer.

Ah, yes.  The magic of Diversity.  Nobody can really explain why it makes us more competitive-- you just have to have faith that it does

[merithyn]

In answer to the question, I think that immigration is necessary to allow people the opportunity to grow and learn beyond their little oasis of life. Bringing in new ideas, new ways to view life, and new options benefit everyone, even if we don't agree with them.

By learning more about another culture, I'm given the opportunity to either change my own habits to something better or strengthen my conviction that my habits are appropriate for me.

[Valmy]

Corn harvesting is all mechanized.  Latinos work mostly in meatpacking here abouts.  Or construction.

Good point.  What sort of agriculture is still that labor intensive?  I guess just fruit picking?

[merithyn]

Corn harvesting is all mechanized.  Latinos work mostly in meatpacking here abouts.  Or construction.

Good point.  What sort of agriculture is still that labor intensive?  I guess just fruit picking?

De-tasseling 

And yes, fruit picking.

[Valmy]

In answer to the question, I think that immigration is necessary to allow people the opportunity to grow and learn beyond their little oasis of life. Bringing in new ideas, new ways to view life, and new options benefit everyone, even if we don't agree with them.

Also it sure beats having net emigration.  When that happens it basically means everybody with the talent is leaving and nobody is coming in to replace them.

[alfred russel]

There is something to be said that a more diverse society is going to be better able to compete internationally. Academia would also suffer.

Ah, yes.  The magic of Diversity.  Nobody can really explain why it makes us more competitive-- you just have to have faith that it does

I can explain it--a bunch of white americans from indiana aren't as likely to break into the chinese marketplace.

[Admiral Yi]

Good point.  What sort of agriculture is still that labor intensive?  I guess just fruit picking?

Growing pot?  Sheering sheep?

[Valmy]

I can explain it--a bunch of white americans from indiana aren't as likely to break into the chinese marketplace.

Yeah and a bunch of Americanized Chinese descendents from immigrants are going to be that much better?  I wouldn't hire the descendants of Irish immigrants thinking they were going to be experts on Ireland.  You really need people who live in or at least work with that market extensively...even white Americans...

[Grallon]

I can explain it--a bunch of white americans from indiana aren't as likely to break into the chinese marketplace.

So you're saying immigration should be considered principally from an economical point of view?



@Meri

I suggest you ponder the benefits of clitoris ablation alongside the wondeful new recipes you can get from the new ethiopean neighboors.




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[alfred russel]

I can explain it--a bunch of white americans from indiana aren't as likely to break into the chinese marketplace.

Yeah and a bunch of Americanized Chinese descendents from immigrants are going to be that much better?  I wouldn't hire the descendants of Irish immigrants thinking they were going to be experts on Ireland.  You really need people who live in or at least work with that market extensively...even white Americans...

Americanized Chinese Decscendants aren't immigrants. Actual immigrants from that part of the world are very important. Aside from their direct contributions, the white americans benefit a great deal from having interactions with immigrants--I'm not chinese but there is a bridge in that I've known a number of people from china.

[Valmy]

So you're saying immigration should be considered principally from an economical point of view?

I would say that is the principal short term benefit.

[Eddie Teach]

Yeah and a bunch of Americanized Chinese descendents from immigrants are going to be that much better?  I wouldn't hire the descendants of Irish immigrants thinking they were going to be experts on Ireland.  You really need people who live in or at least work with that market extensively...even white Americans...

If they are Americanized what's the problem again?

[MadImmortalMan]

Canada needs to purge the French menace to protect her heritage.