What makes a person a particular race?

[Razgovory]

Mexico is more important than Spain.  Therefore, the Mexican way of speaking Spanish trumps the Spanish way.

Mexico is nowhere near as important as Spain.

Mexico has a higher GDP I think. what's your gauge?

It's about the same.  Spain is Euro thus far better, duh.  Hell it's so much more stable then Mexico.  It's government hasn't collapsed in over 30 years!

[Maximus]

Not really. Most illegals enter the country legally, then stay once their student/tourist/work visa is no longer valid.

Same as the US then.

[Admiral Yi]

Same as the US then.

That can't be right.

[Maximus]

Same as the US then.

That can't be right.

You know, it is right based on my own experiences and observations. I once tried to find studies to get a more reliable picture and I found it nearly impossible to get an unbiased report on that.

[Jaron]

Spain isn't important by any measure. Mexico has more influence on world affairs than the Spanish do. They've been reduced from building world empires to losing the war of language to their former fieldhands. No matter what the Academia says.

[Tonitrus]

Spain isn't important by any measure. Mexico has more influence on world affairs than the Spanish do. They've been reduced from building world empires to losing the war of language to their former fieldhands. No matter what the Academia says.

Narco-trafficking counts as influence on world affairs?

Oh wait, of course it does.

[Jaron]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mexico is a great mover and shaker in world affairs.

But it is more relevant and important politically, socially , economically and culturally than Spain is. Spain and Mexico are both countries the US once waged righteous war upon, except we kept the Mexican shit.

[Tonitrus]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mexico is a great mover and shaker in world affairs.

But it is more relevant and important politically, socially , economically and culturally than Spain is. Spain and Mexico are both countries the US once waged righteous war upon, except we kept the Mexican shit.

You forgot Timmah's homeland. 

[merithyn]

So, race is language, except when it is not, because it is also physical characteristics (picked not meaningfully but by what is decided is important), and it is lineage MtDNA that somehow, despite all evidence, plays a meaningful role in biological expression.  Race is also constructed, except when it is not, and it is so obvious that really we don't need to dissect it because it just is.

By Jove, I think he has it!

[Queequeg]

Mexico is nowhere near as important as Spain.

Also Mexican Spanish is hideous.  I look forward to the Argentine dominance of Spanish

Over what period of time? 

[Sheilbh]

Over what period of time?

Currently. 

[Valmy]

So, race is language, except when it is not, because it is also physical characteristics (picked not meaningfully but by what is decided is important), and it is lineage MtDNA that somehow, despite all evidence, plays a meaningful role in biological expression.  Race is also constructed, except when it is not, and it is so obvious that really we don't need to dissect it because it just is.

By Jove, I think he has it!

Race is like interracial porn.  I can't define it but I know it when I see it.

[Valmy]

Mexico has a higher GDP I think. what's your gauge?

Their national soccer teams.

[Savonarola]

Spain has culture, but Mexico has civilization.  For instance:

[derspiess]

Spain > Mexico          even though I've never been to Spain