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Started by Barrister, November 03, 2020, 01:17:04 PM

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Solmyr

Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2020, 02:45:45 PM
Also pardons are only for federal crimes, right? Anything at the state level they're still liable for, if I understood it properly, and the Trumps have several cases in NY state for their business practices.

I'm not sure Trump understands the difference. He probably thinks he can pardon anyone for anything.

Sheilbh

Out of interest - what about crimes in DC? Presumably they could be pardoned by the President because it's not a state and the Federal government has ultimate authority?
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 03, 2020, 05:48:57 AM
Out of interest - what about crimes in DC? Presumably they could be pardoned by the President because it's not a state and the Federal government has ultimate authority?

This lawsuit seems to suggest no, wouldn't be federal crimes, but I don't really know.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/03/ivanka-trump-quizzed-as-part-of-inauguration-fund-lawsuit

QuoteIvanka Trump quizzed as part of inauguration fund lawsuit

Ivanka Trump was interviewed by attorneys alleging that Donald Trump's 2017 inauguration committee misused donor funds, a new court filing reveals.

The document, first reported by CNN on Wednesday, shows that Ivanka Trump, the president's oldest daughter and a senior White House adviser, was interviewed on Tuesday by attorneys from the Washington, DC, attorney general's office.

The office has filed a lawsuit alleging waste of the nonprofit's funds, accusing the committee of making more than $1m (£746,000) in improper payments to the president's Washington, DC, hotel during the week of the inauguration in 2017.


As part of the suit, they have subpoenaed records from Ivanka Trump; the first lady, Melania Trump; Thomas Barrack Jr, a close friend of the president who chaired the inaugural committee, and others. Barrack was also interviewed last month.

Trump's inaugural committee spent more than $1m to book a ballroom at the Trump International Hotel in the nation's capital as part of a scheme to "grossly overpay" for party space and enrich the president's own family in the process, the District of Columbia's attorney general, Karl Racine, alleges.

He has accused the committee of misusing nonprofit funds and coordinating with the hotel's management and members of the Trump family to arrange the events.

"District law requires nonprofits to use their funds for their stated public purpose, not to benefit private individuals or companies," Racine has said. "In this case, we are seeking to recover the nonprofit funds that were improperly funnelled directly to the Trump family business."

The committee raised an unprecedented $107m to host events celebrating Trump's inauguration in January 2017, but its spending has drawn continued scrutiny.

In a statement, Alan Garten, from the Trump Organization, said that "Ms Trump's only involvement was connecting the parties and instructing the hotel to charge a 'fair market rate,' which the hotel did."
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Syt

Is this witness(?) for the Trump team at the Michigan hearing drunk or just weird?

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1334318185772961796?s=20

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Razgovory

Oh, wow.  Rudy was trying to settle her down.  How drunk/crazy do you have to be for Rudy to intervene?
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

alfred russel

Washington DC is a federal district and technically directly under federal control. Violations of Washington DC's laws that correspond to state laws elsewhere are probably subject to presidential pardons, even if similar laws wouldn't be in any state.
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Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Tamas

*insert barrel-scraping sounds*

Eddie Teach

I never expected Barrack to get involved in Donnie's schemes.  :hmm:
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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Syt on December 03, 2020, 08:28:14 AM
Is this witness(?) for the Trump team at the Michigan hearing drunk or just weird?

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1334318185772961796?s=20


BOTH!!!!!????!?!?!>WDJ0ifuj089ejolkasdcm.,mnvcd9&A^(YE$H@#W
PDH!

11B4V

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 03, 2020, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 03, 2020, 08:28:14 AM
Is this witness(?) for the Trump team at the Michigan hearing drunk or just weird?

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1334318185772961796?s=20


BOTH!!!!!????!?!?!>WDJ0ifuj089ejolkasdcm.,mnvcd9&A^(YE$H@#W

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https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1334783856076087297
Quote from: Josh Marshall @joshtpm

worth noting. For the first time - afaik - Trump is saying that unless he's declared winner of Georgia "his" voters won't have confidence in the election system and won't vote in the runoffs. This has been the GOPs fear. Trumps now brandishing it explicitly as a threat.
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The best way to insure a @KLoeffler and @sendavidperdue VICTORY is to allow signature checks in the Presidential race, which will insure a Georgia Presidential win (very few votes are needed, many will be found). Spirits will soar and everyone will rush out and VOTE! @BrianKempGA
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

I'm guessing one of them is named Jesse Morgan, maybe.
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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 04, 2020, 06:24:43 AM
I'm guessing one of them is named Jesse Morgan, maybe.
That is assuming a lot from the Hannity show.  Jesse Morgan could be an elite Parler based think tank. Like the Heritage Foundation of extremist social media services.
PDH!