What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Sheilbh]

Never thought I'd see the day where Brazil has stronger safeguards for democracy than the US, but here we are now.

Yeah although I think it's less safeguards than that I think they've got a lot of people with relatively recent memories of the military dictatorship and an elite with a very politicised judiciary that decided (having removed Dilma and jailed Lula) that Bolsonaro was more a problem, so they got Lula out very early to beat him electorally.

But I think Bolsonaro trying to stage a coup was then crossing a red line (and, I'd add, the US was opposed to it - had Trump been in office things might have gone very differently).

I think American politics is looking very and increasingly American in ways that I think many in DC used to look down on/draw distinctions with.

[viper37]

UC Berkeley shares 160 names with Trump administration in 'McCarthy era' move

The University of California, Berkeley has given the Trump administration the names of 160 faculty members and students as part of an investigation into "alleged antisemitic incidents", a move a targeted scholar likened to a "practice from the McCarthy era".
UC Berkeley, a top-ranked public institution, sent a letter to affected members of campus last week disclosing that university lawyers had included their names in reports to the Department of Education's office for civil rights (OCR). The education department has been targeting colleges across the country as part of Donald Trump's aggressive crackdown on pro-Palestinian activism, international students and academic freedom.

Judith Butler, a prominent feminist philosopher and queer theorist, received the letter from David Robinson, UC Berkeley's chief campus counsel, which said OCR was investigating "allegations of antisemitic harassment and discrimination" and "required production of comprehensive documents".
Butler, a Jewish scholar who has been critical of Israel, said on Friday that they had questioned Robinson about the disclosures and said he provided no information on the specific allegations.
"We have a right to know the charges against us, to know who has made the charges and to review them and defend ourselves," they said. "But none of that has happened, which is why we're in Kafka-land ... It is an enormous breach of trust."

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[garbon]

But of course. Cal sucks.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Rubio has vowed US retribution against Brazil for the ruling and Trump was saying what a great guy he was again. 

Rubio may find, at some point, the Chinese in his backyard and realise that he no longer has a backyard

[Zanza]

Rubio has vowed US retribution against Brazil for the ruling and Trump was saying what a great guy he was again. 

Between the tariffs on India, attacking the South African president in the White House and this, the United States seem hellbent on making BRICS a real power bloc.

[crazy canuck]

Country enforces law, world in shock:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/11/brazil-supreme-court-bolsonaro-guilty-coup

I've no doubt the movement will go on and will be pitching to Trump and the American right. But I think not punishing an attempted coup was a mistake.

Yeah agreed.

Perhaps they realized they couldn't actually successfully punish Trump, and that any punishment attempted to inflict would be visited on themselves tenfold when the Trumpists gained power at some point.

I think it as simple as this. Liberal Democratic institutions survived Balsonara's presidency in Brazil.  They did not survive Trump's first presidency, largely because of the USSC appointments.

But it was a close run thing in Brazil. Democratic institutions need to be nurtured and defended. 

Isn't prosecuting former presidents / impeaching presidents just the Brazilian way?

Bolsonaro, Lula, Temer, Dilma

No, I think that is as much of an oversimplification as saying that killing people is just the American way.

[Syt]

JD Vance had the body of Charlie Kirk transported to Kirk's home in Air Force 2. He also hosted Charlie Kirk's podcast as an in memoriam. Apparently the two were well acquainted.

[Tamas]

The Right is almost visibly shaking in anticipation of the casual belli they think they have received to crack down on their political opponents Putin/Orbán-style. Vance was already talking about coming down on non-profit NGOs.

[DGuller]

The Right is almost visibly shaking in anticipation of the casual belli they think they have received to crack down on their political opponents Putin/Orbán-style. Vance was already talking about coming down on non-profit NGOs.

Yeah, you can't help but feel that the blueprint was there already, just waiting for the Reichstag to catch fire.

[Syt]

Fortunately the 2nd Amendment will protect America from governmental tyranny.

[crazy canuck]

Fortunately the 2nd Amendment will protect America from governmental tyranny.

Turns out all that talk about needing guns to protect against government tyranny was a not the reason they wanted their guns - not that any of us are at all surprised by that.

[HVC]

Fortunately the 2nd Amendment will protect America from governmental tyranny.

Sadly what infinitesimal support the 2nd amendment could provide against tyranny would only come to pass from a left wing revolution. It appears that proponents will happily goosestep along with a fascist takeover. 

[Syt]

Fortunately the 2nd Amendment will protect America from governmental tyranny.

Turns out all that talk about needing guns to protect against government tyranny was a not the reason they wanted their guns - not that any of us are at all surprised by that.

Well, not this kind of tyranny, anyways.

[crazy canuck]

Fortunately the 2nd Amendment will protect America from governmental tyranny.

Turns out all that talk about needing guns to protect against government tyranny was a not the reason they wanted their guns - not that any of us are at all surprised by that.

Well, not this kind of tyranny, anyways.

 

[Zoupa]

Fortunately the 2nd Amendment will protect America from governmental tyranny.

Turns out all that talk about needing guns to protect against government tyranny was a not the reason they wanted their guns - not that any of us are at all surprised by that.