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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 14, 2017, 03:51:21 PM
Trump was boasting on twitter about a Rasmussen poll showing him at 46%.  Things are not going so well when 46% is a great triumph.  Especially when Rasmussen has him down today at 44% and includes this tidbit:

QuoteThe latest figures include 28% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 45% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17. (See trends).

I.e. his strong disapproval is higher than strong and weak approval combined.  And this is the pro Trump leaning poll.

According to Rasmussen, Trump hasn't had strong approval numbers over 30% since April.

Everything you say is true, but his overall approval is stubbornly resistant to Yuge Fuckups, and it will be very difficult to get to impeachment if they persist.

Valmy

It will be interesting to see what happens next year though. And I guess next month when Alabama puts that cradle robber into the Senate.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 14, 2017, 04:10:45 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 14, 2017, 03:51:21 PM
Trump was boasting on twitter about a Rasmussen poll showing him at 46%.  Things are not going so well when 46% is a great triumph.  Especially when Rasmussen has him down today at 44% and includes this tidbit:

QuoteThe latest figures include 28% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 45% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17. (See trends).

I.e. his strong disapproval is higher than strong and weak approval combined.  And this is the pro Trump leaning poll.

According to Rasmussen, Trump hasn't had strong approval numbers over 30% since April.

Everything you say is true, but his overall approval is stubbornly resistant to Yuge Fuckups, and it will be very difficult to get to impeachment if they persist.


Very good chance that his strong approval numbers come from those who get their news (and worldview) from watching Hannity. 

derspiess

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on November 14, 2017, 01:47:51 PM
The Keebler Elf is such putz.

I can't stand listening to him.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on November 14, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens next year though. And I guess next month when Alabama puts that cradle robber into the Senate.

I doubt that has much effect on Trump's approval rating.
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Valmy

Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 14, 2017, 06:34:14 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 14, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens next year though. And I guess next month when Alabama puts that cradle robber into the Senate.

I doubt that has much effect on Trump's approval rating.

Um no I meant the opposite. We will see what effect Trump's approval ratings have on the elections.
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grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on November 14, 2017, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: grumbler on November 14, 2017, 01:47:13 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 14, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
Isn't "a political system where it [religion] could come to power if it just had enough supporters" called "democracy"?  :hmm:

No.  Religions don't "come to power" because they have enough supporters. I am not sure if it is even possible for a religion to "come to power," since I don't even know how a belief system could itself exert any sort of power.  :hmm:

I was talking about a code of laws. Laws can be empowered can they not?

You were talking about sharia.  Celery was talking about religion.  Those are different things.
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grumbler

Quote from: crazy canuck on November 14, 2017, 04:03:26 PM
Ok so there are rights in the abstract.  But if they are not protected by a constitution and interpreted by a court as being protected then what is their practical effect, other than quibbling on languish?

One practical effect of those rights was to convince the founders of my nation to declare independence and create a constitution.  The rights existed before the constitution did.  I understand that, in  system where Parliament is sovereign, rights are granted by Parliament, but that isn't the case in the US, which is the nation to which Valmy referred.  In the US, the people are sovereign.
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11B4V

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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".