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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
. So I don't know what you are babbling about.

He saw an opportunity to remind everyone that he's too smart to buy into all that religion crap, and he took it.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

11B4V

Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 10, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
Well it is fiction, so you can mold it to fit your needs.



But even if that did make sense facts get molded to fit needs several times a second all over the world. So I don't know what you are babbling about.

That sounds like something Kellyanne Conway and Fox News would say.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 11, 2017, 12:31:36 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
. So I don't know what you are babbling about.

He saw an opportunity to remind everyone that he's too smart to buy into all that religion crap, and he took it.

ET phone home.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 10, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
Well it is fiction, so you can mold it to fit your needs.

That does not make any sense. What is actually written in a book is a fact regardless of the factualness of its subject matter.

But even if that did make sense facts get molded to fit needs several times a second all over the world. So I don't know what you are babbling about.

Atheist cry. He doesn't think one should ever know anything about a best selling book let alone one that has shaped the history the last couple millennia.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Yay, Trump trusts Putin's word that he didn't meddle in the election. I wonder if Trump got a sense of his soul.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Zanza

Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Did I just read that Michael Flynn was planning to kidnap someone?
I think it is called extraordinary rendition when governments do it.

11B4V

Quote from: garbon on November 11, 2017, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 10, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
Well it is fiction, so you can mold it to fit your needs.

That does not make any sense. What is actually written in a book is a fact regardless of the factualness of its subject matter.

But even if that did make sense facts get molded to fit needs several times a second all over the world. So I don't know what you are babbling about.

Atheist cry. He doesn't think one should ever know anything about a best selling book let alone one that has shaped the history the last couple millennia.

Nobody is crying. Believe what you what to believe.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

11B is still pissy about going to Sunday School and missing those The Jackson 5ive repeats on Sunday mornings.


11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 11, 2017, 01:02:04 PM
11B is still pissy about going to Sunday School and missing those The Jackson 5ive repeats on Sunday mornings.



Damned straight. Missed The Electric Company and Ultra Man too. These youngins here just don't have a clue.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on November 11, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
Damned straight. Missed The Electric Company and Ultra Man too. These youngins here just don't have a clue.

WRONG.

Those were never on Sundays.  Ultraman was Saturdays.  Now, Star Trek the animated series on Sundays, yeah.

Razgovory

Quote from: Zanza on November 11, 2017, 09:06:38 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Did I just read that Michael Flynn was planning to kidnap someone?
I think it is called extraordinary rendition when governments do it.


No, this was just Flynn and his son.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

Quote'These Are Not The Actions of an Innocent Man'
Trump's after-the-fact complicity in Russia's election meddling is abundantly clear.
David Frum, The Atlantic

"Every time he sees me he says, 'I didn't do that,' and I really believe that."—Donald Trump on Vladimir Putin, en route to Hanoi, November 11, 2017.

So, to put it bluntly: At this point in the proceedings, there can be no innocent explanation for Donald Trump's rejection of the truth about Russian meddling in last year's elections. Earlier, it may have been suggested, sympathetically, that the case had not yet been proven. That Trump's vanity blocked him from acknowledging embarrassing facts. Or—more hopefully—that he was inspired by some Kissingerian grand design for a diplomatic breakthrough. Or that he was lazy. Or stubborn. Or uninformed. Or something, anything, other than ... complicit. Not anymore.

As yet, it remains unproven whether Trump himself was personally complicit in Putin's attack on U.S. democracy as it happened during last year's presidential campaign. What is becoming ever-more undeniable is Trump's complicity in the attack after the fact—and his willingness to smash the intelligence and counter-intelligence agencies in order to protect Putin, Russia, and evidently himself. Consider what the president said to reporters on Saturday: "Then you hear it's 17 agencies [who agree that Russia meddled in the elections], whoa, it's three. And one is [former CIA Director John] Brennan, and one is whatever. I mean give me a break, they're political hacks. ... So you look at that and you have President Putin very strongly, vehemently says he had nothing to do with that."

A year after the 2016 election, the Trump administration has done nothing to harden U.S. election systems against future interference. It refuses to implement the sanctions voted by Congress to punish Russia for election meddling. The president fired the director of the FBI, confessedly to halt an investigation into Russia's actions—and his allies in Congress and the media malign the special counsel appointed to continue the investigation.

These are not the actions of an innocent man, however vain, stubborn, or uniformed.

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard for criminal justice. It's not the standard for counter-intelligence determinations. The preponderance of the evidence ever-more clearly indicates: In ways we cannot yet fully reckon—but can no longer safely deny—the man in the Oval Office has a guilty connection to the Russian government. That connection would bar him from literally any other job in national security except that of head of the executive branch and commander- in-chief of the armed forces of the United States.

At any time, this situation would be dire and ominous. It's graver still at a time when this president seems determined to lead the United States into a preventive war in the Korean peninsula. President Trump may soon demand that this country incur terrible risks and accept heavy sacrifices—even as he leaves Americans in darkening doubt over whose interests he is serving, and why.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

grumbler

Quote from: 11B4V on November 10, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2017, 10:35:06 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 10, 2017, 06:38:28 PM

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"Take the Bible: Zechariah and Elizabeth, for instance," Zeigler said. "Zechariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist. Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus. There's just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual."


My Bible must be defective because I do not recall the age of Joseph, Mary, or Zecharia ever being stated. And it was Elizabeth who was extremely old, which is why it was a miracle that John was born to her. Tradition states that Joseph was old and that is all. Well ok it might be out there in some para-biblical text I am unfamiliar with. Mary says she is a virgin so it is assumed she is young, but exactly what age is never said.

Edit: ok it does say Zecharia was very old as well but it explicitly says both he and Elizabeth were very old. Felt like I should double check myself there :P

Well it is fiction, so you can mold it to fit your needs.

It's part of the Expanded Universe Bible.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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