What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[mongers]

I'd like to see a few more (any?) republicans condeming this for what it is, an attack on the one of the building blocks of democracy. 

The notion that there's systematic voter fraud it an attempt to devalue the democratic process and prepare the ground work to remove the right to vote from sections of society you either don't like, or don't think should be voting against your own party or ideological bias.

[garbon]

Republicans with common decency?

[mongers]

Republicans with common decency?

Yeah those guys, must be plenty around who find attempted vote rigging wrong, just need a few more to make a stand.

[celedhring]

I would think that the party of "get government off my life" would object to such a systematic dragnet of voting records.

Damn, I *wish* that the GOP actually followed through with what supposedly stands for, it would still be bad, but miles better than the current cynical cruelty.

[CountDeMoney]

Damn, I *wish* that the GOP actually followed through with what supposedly stands for, it would still be bad, but miles better than the current cynical cruelty.

The GOP in power now is about Republican values as today's Chinese Communists are about communism.  It's just branding now.

[CountDeMoney]

The reply from the Secretary of State of Mississippi is pretty good too  :
http://www.sos.ms.gov/About/Pages/Press-Release.aspx?pr=800

"Mississippi:  Where voter suppression is a state's right, not Federal!"

[11B4V]

http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/jerome-adams-surgeon-general-trump-indiana-health-commissioner/

Seems like a good pick. Don't know much about him.

[CountDeMoney]

Surgeon General has been a defanged position since C. Everett Koop.  Just processes paperwork for the PHS now.

[Admiral Yi]

In what way is it an indirect result if something happens solely because of a law that was enacted? What is your definition of direct and indirect? What difference does it make anyway if a thing works directly or indirectly to produce a given result?

It's an indirect result because the person the direct cause is some disease rather than words on a piece of paper.  The difference is that between a sin of commission and a sin of omission. The same sin of omission that you and I are committing  right now by not sending all our money to some starving kids in Africa somewhere.

[bogh]

In what way is it an indirect result if something happens solely because of a law that was enacted? What is your definition of direct and indirect? What difference does it make anyway if a thing works directly or indirectly to produce a given result?

It's an indirect result because the person the direct cause is some disease rather than words on a piece of paper.  The difference is that between a sin of commission and a sin of omission. The same sin of omission that you and I are committing  right now by not sending all our money to some starving kids in Africa somewhere.

Name me an example of any direct effect of legislation under that lens? Rarely does the piece of paper involved cause anything itself.

[CountDeMoney]

The lack of healthcare doesn't kill people, it's the lack of access to healthcare that kills people.

[Admiral Yi]

Name me an example of any direct effect of legislation under that lens? Rarely does the piece of paper involved cause anything itself.

Declaration of war.  Capital punishment.

[bogh]

Name me an example of any direct effect of legislation under that lens? Rarely does the piece of paper involved cause anything itself.

Declaration of war.  Capital punishment.

People are killed by enemy combatants, not a piece of paper. Capital punishment is fair I suppose.

[Admiral Yi]

People are killed by enemy combatants, not a piece of paper. Capital punishment is fair I suppose.

They're killed by combatants who are authorized to use force by legislation (or at least used to be).

[bogh]

So loss of American lives is not a direct effect of a US dow (only enemy lives lost are)?