Campaign for the liberation and restoration of Martinus

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grumbler

Quote from: DGuller on May 14, 2016, 08:02:33 PM

Grumbler, you know me well, you know that I always tell you things truthfully, even if they are blunt at times. 

:lmfao:  Have you ever noticed that it is only dishonest people that talk about how honest they are?  It's fascinating. 

I wonder if they really think they are fooling others, and wonder even more if they are fooling themselves.  :hmm:

Oh, and feel free to go whine to Ank again about how I am being mean to you.

QuoteSo here is one more blunt truth from me:  you're not fooling anyone with your non-response responses to Raz.  If you're going for "he's too beneath me to bother with" strategy, you have to actually not bother with him for that strategy to work.  If you respond to him by proxy, then believe me, the one who looks dignified in such non-exchanges is Raz, and definitely not you.

Here's a blunt truth:  I don't give a fuck what you think.  There's nothing for you to be "fooled" about.  I respond to him by proxy all I want, and if that makes him all dignified and stuff in your eyes, I guess that's great for you.  Hell, it might even be great for Raz.   I am utterly indifferent to your "opinions" just as I am utterly indifferent to your self-appointed duty to "denounce" me "regularly."  :lol:
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

Okay, someone quote me here so Grumbler can respond.  What does he want me to do?  Just tell me.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2016, 08:40:01 PM
Okay, someone quote me here so Grumbler can respond.  What does he want me to do?  Just tell me.

Not talk to him. :huh:

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

Quote from: grumbler on May 14, 2016, 08:19:31 PM
:lmfao:  Have you ever noticed that it is only dishonest people that talk about how honest they are?  It's fascinating. 
Not really.  Both honest and dishonest people do that. 

The one thing I have noticed often is that the people who say they don't give a fuck what other people think tend to do that out of necessity.  They would rather do give a fuck, but unfortunately there is nothing complimentary to give a fuck about.

LaCroix

Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2016, 05:13:21 PMquotes, etc.

to be fair, those don't evidence any intention of grumbler trying to drive you off the board. ignoring you because he doesn't want to debate you AND/OR he wants to change your debating behavior isn't the same as driving you off

grumbler

Quote from: LaCroix on May 14, 2016, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2016, 05:13:21 PMquotes, etc.

to be fair, those don't evidence any intention of grumbler trying to drive you off the board. ignoring you because he doesn't want to debate you AND/OR he wants to change your debating behavior isn't the same as driving you off

The reason he can't show any evidence that I am trying to "drive him off the board" is because there isn't any such evidence.  There's no evidence because I don't have any problem with him posting on the board.  In fact, I find his posts rather amusing... like the post in this thread where he claimed, out of the blue, that I was trying to drive him off the board.   That's just so bizarre that I have to laugh.  Sometimes, he's even funny when he tries to be funny.  So, overall, he is more amusing than most (though he can't tough The Brain for amusing posts).  I have no incentive to "drive him off the board."  I also have no incentive to encourage him to change his debating behavior.

You'll note, though, that he threw in a bunch of random quotes without any indication of who posted that, when they posted it, or what the context was.  That kind of intellectually dishonest stuff is why I won't respond to him.  He's not interested in debate, just "winning."  I don't mind that he does that, but I won't go down that rathole.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Jaron

Hi. Can you guys not hijack my thread please? Thanks.
Winner of THE grumbler point.

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

LaCroix

Quote from: Jaron on May 14, 2016, 10:13:47 PM
Hi. Can you guys not hijack my thread please? Thanks.

Sorry! Will only be for a moment. Thank you so much!

LaCroix

katmai

Quote from: Jaron on May 14, 2016, 10:13:47 PM
Hi. Can you guys not hijack my thread please? Thanks.

Hello, this is Languish, you must be new.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on May 14, 2016, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on May 14, 2016, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2016, 05:13:21 PMquotes, etc.

to be fair, those don't evidence any intention of grumbler trying to drive you off the board. ignoring you because he doesn't want to debate you AND/OR he wants to change your debating behavior isn't the same as driving you off

The reason he can't show any evidence that I am trying to "drive him off the board" is because there isn't any such evidence.  There's no evidence because I don't have any problem with him posting on the board.  In fact, I find his posts rather amusing... like the post in this thread where he claimed, out of the blue, that I was trying to drive him off the board.   That's just so bizarre that I have to laugh.  Sometimes, he's even funny when he tries to be funny.  So, overall, he is more amusing than most (though he can't tough The Brain for amusing posts).  I have no incentive to "drive him off the board."  I also have no incentive to encourage him to change his debating behavior.

You'll note, though, that he threw in a bunch of random quotes without any indication of who posted that, when they posted it, or what the context was.  That kind of intellectually dishonest stuff is why I won't respond to him.  He's not interested in debate, just "winning."  I don't mind that he does that, but I won't go down that rathole.

I was having fun.  I really don't care what you think.  I thought of linking the quotes, but then I asked, why should I?  Would Grumbler give me the same respect? 

I will tell you, trying to get everyone here to ignore my posts seems like a strategy to drive me off.  There is one thing you can't stand, and that's looking like a fool, and that's why started to ignore me years ago.  I made you look like a fool and others laughed at you.  And you know what?  They would laugh at you if I had never come here.  People here already think you are a laughable and absurd person.  Debating semantics when you lose an argument and preening about how you what an advanced thinker you are.  You are a joke, but that doesn't fit with your internal world view.  So you ignore that and me to keep from facing it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Jaron on May 14, 2016, 10:13:47 PM
Hi. Can you guys not hijack my thread please? Thanks.

It's because your sig boasts of having THE grumbler point, Raz has no mercy for your thread.  :ph34r:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

Derailing a Marty thread is sweet, like an orange.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2016, 08:40:01 PM
Okay, someone quote me here so Grumbler can respond.  What does he want me to do?  Just tell me.

One of the things that keeps Languish entertaining is Grumbler's need to insult you through the odd practice of pretending not to read your posts but then commenting on you by responding to others.  And you keep saying you are the one who is insane  :lol:

Anyway Raz, you are one of the posters that keeps me here.  :)  Glad you didnt give in to either the bullying of Marti or the extreme passive aggressive behavior of Grumbles.  :)

Grumbles, you would do well to learn from Yi.  He really does ignore my posts.  :P