Is violence against civilians sometimes justified?

Started by Grinning_Colossus, March 23, 2016, 10:19:29 AM

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Is violence against civilians sometimes justified?

Yes, it is sometimes justified
14 (40%)
No, it is never justified
21 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Grinning_Colossus

The topic refers to any use of organized violence in which the primary target is civilians (excluding law enforcement). This includes things like Hiroshima, Dresden, and terrorist suicide bombings.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

Valmy

As collateral damage?

Never as the primary target.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Grinning_Colossus

Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

The Brain

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Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

derspiess

Are the civilians in question Steelers fans, perhaps?
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lustindarkness

Is nuking the whole middle east considered violence against civilians?
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Martinus

Quote from: lustindarkness on March 23, 2016, 11:40:28 AM
Is nuking the whole middle east considered violence against civilians?

No, that would be collateral damage.

Drakken


Grinning_Colossus

Wow, my expectations were really off. I guess the ghost of Curtis LeMay has finally stopped haunting Languish and passed on to Valhalla.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

Josquius

Of course not.
By modern standards the people of WW2 were fucked up
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Jaron

If the majority wills it, violence against minorities is always justified.
Winner of THE grumbler point.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Tyr on March 26, 2016, 09:31:29 PM
Of course not.
By modern standards the people of WW2 were fucked up

Modern people have no room to judge. Look at what our governments countenance without an existential threat.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Valmy

Quote from: Tyr on March 26, 2016, 09:31:29 PM
Of course not.
By modern standards the people of WW2 were fucked up

WW2 made everybody lose their shit and do horrible things. But are we really any better? I don't think so.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."