Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Syt]

I'm pretty sure that "political indoctrination" in this context means "anything I disagree with."

[Tamas]

Taking one's livelihood is an excellent way of bending them to your will.

That was the big discovery of the more "enlightened" post-1956 communist dictatorship in Hungary (and I believe the Soviets moved toward this in the 80s as well): you don't need to physically destroy people who dare speak up against you. Just destroy their livelihood. Especially since most of these would educated people to begin with, just exile them from their chosen profession, and force them into a life of unskilled labour and poverty. You do that to a few, the rest will fall in line.

Same went on with recruiting informants for the internal secret service. Sure you could had said no. But then you could forget ever being promoted or getting a decent job in your chosen field, ever again.

[crazy canuck]

Oh yes they do. We have only discussed this dozens of times.

I recall a discussion about reactions to racist comments, not political ideology.  But it may be that distinction is becoming less relevant in the age of Trump.

[grumbler]

Oh yes they do. We have only discussed this dozens of times.

I recall a discussion about reactions to racist comments, not political ideology.  But it may be that distinction is becoming less relevant in the age of Trump.

Or it may just be that your power of recall is poor. 

We certainly have discussed various attempts to suppress speech on political/ideological grounds, though there was no convincing evidence from either side as to the extent of the problem.

[The Brain]

Oh yes they do. We have only discussed this dozens of times.

I recall a discussion about reactions to racist comments, not political ideology.  But it may be that distinction is becoming less relevant in the age of Trump.

Or it may just be that your power of recall is poor. 

We certainly have discussed various attempts to suppress speech on political/ideological grounds, though there was no convincing evidence from either side as to the extent of the problem.

STFU

Have we discussed geriatric grounds btw?

[crazy canuck]

Oh yes they do. We have only discussed this dozens of times.

I recall a discussion about reactions to racist comments, not political ideology.  But it may be that distinction is becoming less relevant in the age of Trump.

Or it may just be that your power of recall is poor. 

We certainly have discussed various attempts to suppress speech on political/ideological grounds, though there was no convincing evidence from either side as to the extent of the problem.

goal posts effectively moved. Well done.  We were talking about the left calling for people to be punished by being fired for their political beliefs.

[grumbler]

Oh yes they do. We have only discussed this dozens of times.

I recall a discussion about reactions to racist comments, not political ideology.  But it may be that distinction is becoming less relevant in the age of Trump.

Or it may just be that your power of recall is poor. 

We certainly have discussed various attempts to suppress speech on political/ideological grounds, though there was no convincing evidence from either side as to the extent of the problem.

goal posts effectively moved. Well done.  We were talking about the left calling for people to be punished by being fired for their political beliefs.

I guess your reading comprehension is about on par with your recall.  That's what I was talking about, as well.

[Valmy]

goal posts effectively moved. Well done.  We were talking about the left calling for people to be punished by being fired for their political beliefs.

They are not calling for people on the left to be fired for their political beliefs but expressing them.

[Syt]

https://www.lifenews.com/2019/08/21/disabled-41-year-old-man-is-euthanized-after-funding-for-home-health-care-runs-out/?fbclid=IwAR26aI4ffmk3GHlUqRB_giDOr0IsiN652V5i2qmaosqcHNwm52TFVipQTCg

Disabled 41-Year-Old Man is Euthanized After Funding for Home Health Care Runs Out

Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assisted suicide after health officials decided to cut the funding for his in-home care hours.

Mr Tagert suffered from Motor Neurone Disease (MND) which is known in Canada as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS). His illness reduced his ability to move his body, eat or speak, however his mental awareness remained unaffected. Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr Tagert.

However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.

Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system

According to Grandin Media, on social media, Mr Tagert wrote a status which explained that two Vancouver Coastal Health officials visited his home and confirmed that they were cutting funding for his already inadequate care hours.

After receiving this news Mr Tagert wrote a number of devastating social media status's which read: "So last Friday I officially submitted my medically assisted death paperwork, with lawyers and doctors, everything is in proper order. It's been a month since I submitted my appeal to the Vancouver Coastal Health patient care quality department. They didn't even respond....Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system."

Mr Tagert was killed by assisted suicide on August 6th.

Canada is home to some of the world's most sinister euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, as even those without a terminal illness or those suffering from a mental illness are eligible to be killed by a medically assisted death.

Since Canada legalised euthanasia in 2016, there have been at least 6,749 cases of medically assisted deaths, with over 803 dead in the first 6 months of legalisation. 2018 saw Canada's euthanasia figures soar with over 3000 Canadians killed by their doctor.

When the right to die becomes the duty to die

A ComRes poll found that nearly half of the British population is concerned that if the option of ending one's life was made legal, some people would feel pressurised into killing themselves.

It is becoming increasingly evident that suicide laws could lead to vulnerable people seeing suicide as a treatment option, so as not to be a burden to others.

In a recent debate in the House Commons, MP Lynn McInnes expressed her concern at the very realistic possibility of the vulnerable being pressurised to die. Ms McInnes said: "My concern is that in the current climate, at a time of over-stretched NHS budgets and massively under-funded social care, if assisted dying was legalised, it would begin to be seen as an alternative to treatment and to care. There is a very real risk of a subtle yet dangerous culture change, in which vulnerable, terminally ill patients, come to see assisted dying as a treatment option, and indeed the best way to stop themselves becoming a burden to their families, to the NHS and to wider society."

MP Jim Shannon also stated during the debate, that "the 'right to die' for the eloquent and well off would become a duty to die for the poor and vulnerable."

We have a duty to protect the vulnerable

Director of SPUC's Patients First Network, Antonia Tully said: "If assisted dying is legalised in Britain it could lead to a reduction in the quality of healthcare and risks promoting death as an alternative to medical treatment. We have a duty to protect the vulnerable, who deserve good healthcare and respect."

Ms Tully continued: "Mr Tagert's story should serve as a glaring warning to our MPs that assisted dying can make vulnerable people even more vulnerable. Assisted suicide is an inhumane response to suffering. It is a dangerous route to go down."

Oh, Canada

[grumbler]

https://www.lifenews.com/2019/08/21/disabled-41-year-old-man-is-euthanized-after-funding-for-home-health-care-runs-out/?fbclid=IwAR26aI4ffmk3GHlUqRB_giDOr0IsiN652V5i2qmaosqcHNwm52TFVipQTCg

Disabled 41-Year-Old Man is Euthanized After Funding for Home Health Care Runs Out

Canadian Sean Tagert, aged 41, was killed by assisted suicide after health officials decided to cut the funding for his in-home care hours.

Mr Tagert suffered from Motor Neurone Disease (MND) which is known in Canada as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS). His illness reduced his ability to move his body, eat or speak, however his mental awareness remained unaffected. Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr Tagert.

However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.

Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system

According to Grandin Media, on social media, Mr Tagert wrote a status which explained that two Vancouver Coastal Health officials visited his home and confirmed that they were cutting funding for his already inadequate care hours.

After receiving this news Mr Tagert wrote a number of devastating social media status's which read: "So last Friday I officially submitted my medically assisted death paperwork, with lawyers and doctors, everything is in proper order. It's been a month since I submitted my appeal to the Vancouver Coastal Health patient care quality department. They didn't even respond....Welcome to the great Canadian healthcare system."

Mr Tagert was killed by assisted suicide on August 6th.

Canada is home to some of the world's most sinister euthanasia and assisted suicide laws, as even those without a terminal illness or those suffering from a mental illness are eligible to be killed by a medically assisted death.

Since Canada legalised euthanasia in 2016, there have been at least 6,749 cases of medically assisted deaths, with over 803 dead in the first 6 months of legalisation. 2018 saw Canada's euthanasia figures soar with over 3000 Canadians killed by their doctor.

When the right to die becomes the duty to die

A ComRes poll found that nearly half of the British population is concerned that if the option of ending one's life was made legal, some people would feel pressurised into killing themselves.

It is becoming increasingly evident that suicide laws could lead to vulnerable people seeing suicide as a treatment option, so as not to be a burden to others.

In a recent debate in the House Commons, MP Lynn McInnes expressed her concern at the very realistic possibility of the vulnerable being pressurised to die. Ms McInnes said: "My concern is that in the current climate, at a time of over-stretched NHS budgets and massively under-funded social care, if assisted dying was legalised, it would begin to be seen as an alternative to treatment and to care. There is a very real risk of a subtle yet dangerous culture change, in which vulnerable, terminally ill patients, come to see assisted dying as a treatment option, and indeed the best way to stop themselves becoming a burden to their families, to the NHS and to wider society."

MP Jim Shannon also stated during the debate, that "the 'right to die' for the eloquent and well off would become a duty to die for the poor and vulnerable."

We have a duty to protect the vulnerable

Director of SPUC's Patients First Network, Antonia Tully said: "If assisted dying is legalised in Britain it could lead to a reduction in the quality of healthcare and risks promoting death as an alternative to medical treatment. We have a duty to protect the vulnerable, who deserve good healthcare and respect."

Ms Tully continued: "Mr Tagert's story should serve as a glaring warning to our MPs that assisted dying can make vulnerable people even more vulnerable. Assisted suicide is an inhumane response to suffering. It is a dangerous route to go down."

Oh, Canada

This looks like a poster child for the badly-written hit piece written by an ideologically-driven "news" site.

[Syt]

This looks like a poster child for the badly-written hit piece written by an ideologically-driven "news" site.

It's a good example of the news stories my sisters share (besides FOX News).

[Tonitrus]

While obviously more of an editorial (of whatever quality you judge it be) than a news article, I think it does provoke a real and troubling concern.  That point where even a theoretically universal health care system decides to cut short that universality for the sake of costs, and thus perhaps making the life of someone with a debilitating illness feel as if it no longer worth struggling with.

(here is the news report from the CBC, if you want one a bit less ideologically charged: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/als-bc-man-medically-assisted-death-1.5244731 _

[Darth Wagtaros]

While obviously more of an editorial (of whatever quality you judge it be) than a news article, I think it does provoke a real and troubling concern.  That point where even a theoretically universal health care system decides to cut short that universality for the sake of costs, and thus perhaps making the life of someone with a debilitating illness feel as if it no longer worth struggling with.

(here is the news report from the CBC, if you want one a bit less ideologically charged: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/als-bc-man-medically-assisted-death-1.5244731 _

I'm impressed that it actually happened, or at least, something close to what the article said. Most of them are made up crap. "Not Fake News as they are based on Tru Events meant to make you think. "

[Syt]

Christina Clancy
September 4 at 11:56 AM
Dear Walmart,
Since you are going to stop selling handgun and Ar-15 ammunition due to criminals using firearms to commit crimes I will also expect you to stop selling the following:
1. Alcoholic beverages of any type since they contribute to drunk driving, domestic violence, all sorts of ailments, and random stupidity of all types.
2. All cell phones due to people using them while driving and being distracted and causing more fatal accidents per year than gun deaths.
3. All kinds of sodas due to the sugar content contributing to Diabetes, obesity, tooth decay, as well as certain cancers from diet soft drinks.
4. Processed foods of all types due to cancer and heart attack risks, as well as a plethora of other ailments.
5. All automotive products due to them contributing to auto accident fatalities.
6. Lawn and garden chemicals and products due to the cancer connections.
7. All fresh produce due to the use of pesticides and potential cancer risk.
8. All clothing products not made in the USA or other country that doesn't have a slave like labor force.
9. All types of plastic products, because a recent study has shown micro-plastic particles in poop from people from all over the world plus the bottom of the ocean is littered with discarded plastic containers.
10. Pharmaceutical products due to the potential of abuse and addiction.
12. All electronic items made in third world countries due to poor working conditions.
13. All knives due to the increased knife attach in countries that have banned firearms.

Doesn't leave much does it? And that is just the short list. Walmart executives please remove your cranium from your colonic orifice and realize you're fighting the wrong people and the wrong problems for the wrong reasons.

[Valmy]

So she agrees that we should do background checks and gun registries to keep guns out of the hands of criminals?