Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Zoupa]

64-year old, not 80.  And apparently he wasn't in Nam FWIW.

Omg who the fuck cares 

[FunkMonk]

Sarah Sanders says that WH has reached out to the Covington Catholic kids and invited them to the WH but any meeting would take place after the shutdown.

https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1087861143240994816

YESSSSSS 

[FunkMonk]

Looks like the Twitter account that popularized this video was likely "bad actor" trying to sow discord.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twitter-suspends-account-native-american-maga-teens/index.html

Molly McKew, an information warfare researcher who saw the tweet and shared it herself on Saturday, said she later realized that a network of anonymous accounts were working to amplify the video.

This moron is a self-styled 'information warfare expert' according to her twatter bio. 

Hell yes 

[Oexmelin]

Ian Bogost's take on the Student vs Elder kerfuffle: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/viral-clash-students-and-native-americans-explained/580906/

[Admiral Yi]

I found that article to be utter bullshit.

[Oexmelin]

Why?

[Eddie Teach]

I don't even buy the old man's narrative after seeing the first video. What I see is him drumming in a kid's face while the kid smiles awkwardly.

[Admiral Yi]

Why?

Because it's an exercise in sophistry to avoid blaming the BI's for starting all the shit and the Indians for amplifying the shit.  Yes, the original video does demonstrate that editing can change perception.  And the second, longer video corrects at least some of the flawed perception of the first video.

"The kids were originally accused of gross racism.  But it turns out the real story is so complex!  Can we ever know the truth?"

[Oexmelin]

Because it's an exercise in sophistry to avoid blaming the BI's for starting all the shit and the Indians for amplifying the shit.  Yes, the original video does demonstrate that editing can change perception.  And the second, longer video corrects at least some of the flawed perception of the first video.

"The kids were originally accused of gross racism.  But it turns out the real story is so complex!  Can we ever know the truth?"

The point of the article is not to ascribe blame to anyone on the event (there's plenty of that out there, including on the Atlantic, if you are interested). The point is to reiterate that our hopes that "a" video, can ever stand for the fullness of truth is flawed. It is indeed a simple point, but still, it seems we continuously cling to the hope that video could eventually show reality unmediated, despite our living in an age of constant media production, and editing. Nowhere does he mention that truth is unknowable. 

[Admiral Yi]

The point of the article is not to ascribe blame to anyone on the event (there's plenty of that out there, including on the Atlantic, if you are interested). The point is to reiterate that our hopes that "a" video, can ever stand for the fullness of truth is flawed. It is indeed a simple point, but still, it seems we continuously cling to the hope that video could eventually show reality unmediated, despite our living in an age of constant media production, and editing. Nowhere does he mention that truth is unknowable.

That's what i said.  The point of the article is to avoid assigning blame.  The rest is window dressing.

[Oexmelin]

So the only reason to write about this is to assign blame?

[Admiral Yi]

That's a pretty silly question.

[Oexmelin]

Then I don't understand your objection .

[Duque de Bragança]

I feel my smugness is perfectly justified

Hey I never said you shouldn't be a justified level of smug

But I remember a time when Le Pen lost by 60 points

Stay vigilant!

Macron won with 66% vs Marine 34 %, with a lot of blank and null votes, not to mention a very high abstention for a run-off. Hardly a reason to feel smug.  Not to mention the current situation...

[The Minsky Moment]

I blame Moses.  He was a prophet and so should have had the foresight to copyright the Tanakh and put a stop to all the rip off imitations.  Had he done that, there would be no Christian students and certainly no fake "Hebrew Israelites".  All that would have been left is one native guy alone with his drum.