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Started by Syt, December 06, 2015, 01:55:02 PM

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Razgovory

Quote from: Oexmelin on December 02, 2018, 02:14:39 AM
This is the result of so much US history taught in isolation from the rest of the world. Tens of thousands of loyalists fled the War of independence to Cananda and the Caribbean and tens of thousands of Confederates fled the Civil War to South America.

I know, it's a meme, but the idea that Americans in the past were not always in the movers and shakers of history is so widespread...


Ugh.  I hate this.  The US is almost solipsistic in it's world view.d
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

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Syt

QuoteALL AMERICANS MUST READ THIS ...PLEASE !!!
SHARE....EMAIL...SHARE....LET IT BE KNOWN !!


DO NOT ADD A SINGLE WORD

Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do. Few were listening.

The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday

morning televised "Meet The Press'.

From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11 : 48 : 04 EST,

Televised "Meet the Press" THE THEN Senator Obama was

asked about his stance on the American Flag.

General Bill Gann' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain

WHY he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem

is played.

The General stated to Obama that according to the United

States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171...

During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is

displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected

to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over

the heart. Or, at the very least, "Stand and Face It".

NOW GET THIS !!

'Senator Obama replied :

"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived

as taking sides". "There are a lot of people in the world to

whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression.." "The

anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the

bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing."

(ARE YOU READY FOR THIS???)

Obama continued : "The National Anthem should

be 'swapped' for something less parochial and less bellicose.

I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing'. If that

were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we

should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well

as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and

love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the

level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a

Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations

of Islam, where peace prevails - - - perhaps a state or period

of mutual accord could exist between our governments ...."

When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to

end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a

state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive

thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of

Islam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects

the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning

ceremonies in the past".

"Of course now, I have found myself about to become the

President of the United States and I have put my hatred

aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this

Nation, and offer the people a new path.My wife and I look

forward to becoming our Country's First black Family.

Indeed,CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of

America "

Yes, you read it right.

I, for one, am speechless!!!

Dale Lindsborg , Washington Post

EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

NEEDS

TO READ THIS, SO KEEP IT GOING ! !

SAVE AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE ! !
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frunk

I know this is a different era, but I don't remember this much made up crap being thrown around about Bush 2 years after he was out of office.

dps

Quote from: Razgovory on December 02, 2018, 01:15:45 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 02, 2018, 02:01:43 AM



Also, wasn't the Civil War essentially an attempt to leave the US?

Well, it would have been a successful attempt to do so without a war if people in the north hadn't "pick up guns and fought and died to make it right".

Malthus

Quote from: Syt on December 02, 2018, 02:01:43 AM


Whoever made this meme evidently never heard of the "Pilgrims". The whole founding mythology of the US is based on the notion of people peacefully leaving where they were to flee to the US to build a new life away from 'oppression' back in the old country.

I guess being reminded of them every Thanksgiving isn't enough ...  :lol:

Naturally, they also never heard of the "United Empire Loyalists", either.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Valmy

Yeah if Americans really were who they say they were, the United States wouldn't exist and all of Britain's problems would have been solved. Sorry Britain.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2018, 02:35:28 AM
America is an immigrant country almost entirely populated by people who left their country of origin :hmm:

What foreign country were you born in?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

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Quote from: derspiess on December 03, 2018, 10:31:36 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2018, 02:35:28 AM
America is an immigrant country almost entirely populated by people who left their country of origin :hmm:

What foreign country were you born in?

Don't be a pedantic shithead, you know what I mean :lol:

But hey even within this country people often do not stay in the community we were born into. If better opportunity presents itself elsewhere we will just pick up and go, nevermind actual problems. And yes it is not uncommon for that to be a different country. I am almost an oddity for staying in my hometown. Moving around is pretty American.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Richard Hakluyt

The USA is also a good example of how immigration can be very pernicious to the original inhabitants  :P

As could Australia and even...gasp!.....Canada!

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Eddie Teach

Would it be too pedantic to point out that every country outside east Africa is populated by the descendants of people who came from somewhere else?
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Malthus

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Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 03, 2018, 10:41:46 AM
The USA is also a good example of how immigration can be very pernicious to the original inhabitants  :P

As could Australia and even...gasp!.....Canada!

The less 'progressive' the locals were, the worse off they were after contact with immigrants.

State level Eurasian societies more or less shrugged off colonial contact without losing their identity;  Neolithic-level farmers of North America were in trouble; but the stone age hunter-gatherers of Tasmania were completely wiped out. 

No wonder American Republicans are so worried.  :P
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius