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Started by jimmy olsen, January 18, 2015, 08:58:21 PM

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jimmy olsen

You really have to be crazy to try to take out thw VP, what's the point?

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30872510

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Shots fired outside Joe Biden's house in Delaware
7 hours ago

From the section US & Canada

Shots were fired near US Vice-President Joe Biden's house in the state of Delaware, but he was away at the time, a Secret Service official has said.

The shots were fired on Saturday from a public road in Greenville, outside a security perimeter, Robert Hoback said.
The road is several hundred metres from the house, and officials were searching to see if the shots had hit anything.
The incident, which happened at about 20:25 on Saturday (01:25 GMT Sunday), is under investigation.

The Secret Service said the vehicle from which the shots were fired "drove by the vice president's residence at a high rate of speed".

"The shots were heard by Secret Service personnel posted at the residence, and a vehicle was observed by an agent leaving the scene at a high rate of speed," it said.
Mr Biden's office says the vice-president and his wife, Jill, were later briefed on the incident.

One man was arrested later nearby but it is not known if he was directly involved in the shooting.

The Bidens spend many weekends at the Delaware house, the Associated Press news agency reports.

The incident comes four months after an intruder armed with a knife managed to dodge guards and enter the White House.
The head of the Secret Service stepped down over that breach and previous lapses in security surrounding the president.
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Ideologue

I was thinking the other day that it's surprising no one's ever tried to assassinate Supreme Court justices (afaik?).

Consider it:

1)unlike elected officials, they hold office essentially for life, so it really is the only way they'll ever be removed if you believe it to be necessary.
2)killing an elected official will simply make then a martyr for their cause, leading to more support for that cause, and they will simply be replaced by an even more powerful version of what you just destroyed (i.e., Kennedy to Johnson), except in certain special, anachronistic cases (Lincoln to the other Johnson).
3)if you kill them while the president of your side is sitting, the replacements for Supreme Court justices will be significantly more likely to be to your liking.

(As a bonus, 4)Supreme Court justices are lawyers, and hence easily cowed.)
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mongers

Quote from: Ideologue on January 18, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
I was thinking the other day that it's surprising no one's ever tried to assassinate Supreme Court justices (afaik?).

Consider it:

1)unlike elected officials, they hold office essentially for life, so it really is the only way they'll ever be removed if you believe it to be necessary.
2)killing an elected official will simply make then a martyr for their cause, leading to more support for that cause, and they will simply be replaced by an even more powerful version of what you just destroyed (i.e., Kennedy to Johnson), except in certain special, anachronistic cases (Lincoln to the other Johnson).
3)if you kill them while the president of your side is sitting, the replacements for Supreme Court justices will be significantly more likely to be to your liking.

(As a bonus, 4)Supreme Court justices are lawyers, and hence easily cowed.)

You're not on an NSA watchlist.  :P
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Razgovory

Quote from: Ideologue on January 18, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
I was thinking the other day that it's surprising no one's ever tried to assassinate Supreme Court justices (afaik?).

Consider it:

1)unlike elected officials, they hold office essentially for life, so it really is the only way they'll ever be removed if you believe it to be necessary.
2)killing an elected official will simply make then a martyr for their cause, leading to more support for that cause, and they will simply be replaced by an even more powerful version of what you just destroyed (i.e., Kennedy to Johnson), except in certain special, anachronistic cases (Lincoln to the other Johnson).
3)if you kill them while the president of your side is sitting, the replacements for Supreme Court justices will be significantly more likely to be to your liking.

(As a bonus, 4)Supreme Court justices are lawyers, and hence easily cowed.)

You do have a point.  It's actually amazing nobody shot Earl Warren.  That was a man who was, really, really, really hated.
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Hilary's really taking no chances this time :o
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Quote from: Ideologue on January 18, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
I was thinking the other day that it's surprising no one's ever tried to assassinate Supreme Court justices (afaik?).

Consider it:

1)unlike elected officials, they hold office essentially for life, so it really is the only way they'll ever be removed if you believe it to be necessary.
2)killing an elected official will simply make then a martyr for their cause, leading to more support for that cause, and they will simply be replaced by an even more powerful version of what you just destroyed (i.e., Kennedy to Johnson), except in certain special, anachronistic cases (Lincoln to the other Johnson).
3)if you kill them while the president of your side is sitting, the replacements for Supreme Court justices will be significantly more likely to be to your liking.

(As a bonus, 4)Supreme Court justices are lawyers, and hence easily cowed.)

Yeah. And 5) Noone would cry after Scalia.

grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 04:17:13 AM
Yeah. And 5) Noone would cry after Scalia.

Scalia would be missed.  Thomas, on the other hand, wouldn't be missed until it was time to vote and someone noticed that there were only eight people voting.
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Quote from: grumbler on January 20, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 04:17:13 AM
Yeah. And 5) Noone would cry after Scalia.

Scalia would be missed.  Thomas, on the other hand, wouldn't be missed until it was time to vote and someone noticed that there were only eight people voting.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on January 20, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 04:17:13 AM
Yeah. And 5) Noone would cry after Scalia.

Scalia would be missed.  Thomas, on the other hand, wouldn't be missed until it was time to vote and someone noticed that there were only eight people voting.

Sometimes if you listen very, very careful to the audio transcripts, you can hear Clarence breathing.  Sometimes.

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Quote from: Ideologue on January 18, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
(As a bonus, 4)Supreme Court justices are lawyers, and hence easily cowed.)

Many politicians are also lawyers.
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Norgy

Quote from: Sheilbh on January 18, 2015, 11:44:28 PM
Hilary's really taking no chances this time :o

She's been Biden her time.

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Ideologue on January 18, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
I was thinking the other day that it's surprising no one's ever tried to assassinate Supreme Court justices (afaik?).

Consider it:

1)unlike elected officials, they hold office essentially for life, so it really is the only way they'll ever be removed if you believe it to be necessary.
2)killing an elected official will simply make then a martyr for their cause, leading to more support for that cause, and they will simply be replaced by an even more powerful version of what you just destroyed (i.e., Kennedy to Johnson), except in certain special, anachronistic cases (Lincoln to the other Johnson).
3)if you kill them while the president of your side is sitting, the replacements for Supreme Court justices will be significantly more likely to be to your liking.

(As a bonus, 4)Supreme Court justices are lawyers, and hence easily cowed.)


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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 20, 2015, 02:19:06 PM
They key to surviving the presidency is to make sure you don't pick a VP named Johnson.

Didn't help McKinley and Garfield. :P

derspiess

Good thing Joe wasn't home.  He'd have blasted a few shells through the door.
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