Going to Hell in a Handbasket

[Tonitrus]

The NATO of 1985 is not the same NATO we have today.  I'm not sure our European friends would be willing to lose everything for the sake of Latvia.  I think Putin senses it as well.  I think he can split NATO and dominate Europe. 

And if China is reading up on Mahan, then we don't need to worry about them that much.

Our friends may not, but we'd have to.  If we let them roll over even a Baltic member state, we might as well just toss the alliance.

Besides, even if most of Europe sits this one out, I think we could count on 38 million screamin' Poles.

[CountDeMoney]

Fuck yeah.  There's a lotta Hussars out there, just itching for payback.

[Eddie Teach]

I look forward to hearing about it when Marty tackles a Russian soldier.

[Razgovory]

The NATO of 1985 is not the same NATO we have today.  I'm not sure our European friends would be willing to lose everything for the sake of Latvia.  I think Putin senses it as well.  I think he can split NATO and dominate Europe. 

Oh, bullshit.  He attacks NATO, and the ball goes up fast.  Watching Moscow getting glassed for Latvia is not something even filthy ass Russians want.

And if China is reading up on Mahan, then we don't need to worry about them that much.

They said that about the Kaiser, too.  Keep thinking that shit.

He doesn't have to directly attack Latvia.  He can ship weapons in to Ethnic Russians.  If he muddies the water  NATO could be split on how to respond, a split like that could destroy the alliance leaving Baltic open to invasion.

If the Chinese want to build a bunch of battleships and keep them in port as a fleet in being, they are welcome to it.

[DGuller]

Oh, bullshit.  He attacks NATO, and the ball goes up fast.  Watching Moscow getting glassed for Latvia is not something even filthy ass Russians want.

Oh, bullshit.  It's not like Russia is not going to fire back.  Nuclear weapons are the ultimate game of chicken.  In such games, credibly crazy actors are at an advantage, and those perceived to be indecisive are at a severe disadvantage.  Until we have a Doomsday device that triggers even on covert invasions of NATO countries, there will always be some question mark over where our red line really is.

[Ed Anger]

DG's red line: the neareast blueberry farm

[CountDeMoney]

Eurotrash and their hang ups with Russians. 

You guys need a new hobby, like Jews or something.

[sbr]

Been there, burned that.

[Phillip V]

Summat to do with European monetary policy/future of EU

A weak EU will enable further Russian aggression and Islamist expansion. And ebola can easily spread to Europe's borders.

[PJL]

The NATO of 1985 is not the same NATO we have today.  I'm not sure our European friends would be willing to lose everything for the sake of Latvia.  I think Putin senses it as well.  I think he can split NATO and dominate Europe. 

Oh, bullshit.  He attacks NATO, and the ball goes up fast.  Watching Moscow getting glassed for Latvia is not something even filthy ass Russians want.

And if China is reading up on Mahan, then we don't need to worry about them that much.

They said that about the Kaiser, too.  Keep thinking that shit.

He doesn't have to directly attack Latvia.  He can ship weapons in to Ethnic Russians.  If he muddies the water  NATO could be split on how to respond, a split like that could destroy the alliance leaving Baltic open to invasion.

If the Chinese want to build a bunch of battleships and keep them in port as a fleet in being, they are welcome to it.

So the old salami tactics then.