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Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics

Started by Liep, February 06, 2014, 10:00:38 PM

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Tonitrus

Summer Olympics in the SH's "winter", especially places like Rio, will probably much more comfortable for the athletes.

viper37

Quote from: Barrister on February 13, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 13, 2014, 07:09:02 AM
All the candidate city, so far, for 2022 all sucks.

:huh:

Bids are:

Krakow
Oslo
Almaty
L'viv
Beijing

Only Almaty is :bleeding: .  I'd probably write off L'viv due to recent political problems in Ukraine, and Beijing seems unlikely.  But either of Krakow or Oslo would be fine.
Oslo isn't cool enough, it's rainy this time of the year.

Quebec city is great, but we have no mountains high enough.  Besides, I don't want 50b$ govnmt money into this... :)
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Tonitrus

Anchorage or Whitehorse should be candidates.

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Barrister

Quote from: Tonitrus on February 13, 2014, 12:37:44 PM
Anchorage or Whitehorse should be candidates.

Whitehorse:

-almost certainly too small, not enough hotel rooms
-travel would be quite difficult.  While the airport runway is big enough to take even a 747, the terminal can only handle a handful of big planes at once
-Mt Sima, the local ski hill, isn't anywhere near high enough.  To get big enough you'd probably have to start a resort in the Kluane Mountains, which is a National Park (and yes, plenty of ski resorts exist in national parks now, but that's from a different time)
-It's pretty cold in Whitehorse in February.  It's -21C there today
-who is going to pay for it?  City of Whitehorse is too small, as is YTG (Yukon Territorial Government).  For Vancouver, most costs were underwritten by the city and province.  For Yukon, you'd need the Feds to step in, and I don't see them spending that kind of money on a region with so few votes.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Barrister on February 13, 2014, 12:50:49 PM
For Vancouver, most costs were underwritten by the city and province.  For Yukon, you'd need the Feds to step in, and I don't see them spending that kind of money on a region with so few votes.

More importantly the Fed money in Vancouver went toward infrastructure upgrades that were needed in any event.  like the sky train link from the airport to downtown.  The infrastructure upgrades required  for remote communities would be extensive and costly (see Sochi even without the corruption) and would be overkill for what is required after the games.

Zanza

Quote from: Liep on February 13, 2014, 12:08:35 PM
Also, Germany leads the medal race so far. They're just very good at luge, and it looks like they're getting another one in the luge relay. :lol:
If you add up the various German teams (GER, FRG, GDR, EUA) that competed in the Winter Olympics, Germany is comfortably the most successful nation in total medal count over all Winter Olympics.

Tonitrus

Anchorage could probably use the infrastructure upgrades...but the politicians there would never go for it.  Alaska as a whole could support it...but probably only by trying to tap into the Permanent Fund.  Also political suicide.


Tonitrus

Quote from: Zanza on February 13, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: Liep on February 13, 2014, 12:08:35 PM
Also, Germany leads the medal race so far. They're just very good at luge, and it looks like they're getting another one in the luge relay. :lol:
If you add up the various German teams (GER, FRG, GDR, EUA) that competed in the Winter Olympics, Germany is comfortably the most successful nation in total medal count over all Winter Olympics.

And the Swiss are probably best on a per capita basis.

Edit: Hmm, maybe Austria...didn't realize there were so many Swiss.

Zanza

No, that's without any doubt Norway. They have won more medals than countries like the USA or USSR+Russia and more than twice the amount of Switzerland.

Admiral Yi

Surely Norway must lead per capita.  Their entire population is a couple thousand.

Liep

Quote from: Tonitrus on February 13, 2014, 01:08:07 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 13, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: Liep on February 13, 2014, 12:08:35 PM
Also, Germany leads the medal race so far. They're just very good at luge, and it looks like they're getting another one in the luge relay. :lol:
If you add up the various German teams (GER, FRG, GDR, EUA) that competed in the Winter Olympics, Germany is comfortably the most successful nation in total medal count over all Winter Olympics.

And the Swiss are probably best on a per capita basis.

Edit: Hmm, maybe Austria...didn't realize there were so many Swiss.

Surely that must be the Norwegians, there's just about 5 millions.
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Tonitrus

Yep, Norway.  For some reason I thought there were more Nords.  :P

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Quote from: Barrister on February 13, 2014, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Liep on February 13, 2014, 12:05:52 PM
Kazakhstan can't be worse than China or Russia.

Sure it can.  It's more like Belorussia, than Russia itself.  Both China and Russia at least have nicer facades of democracy than Kazakhstan.

Also, it's muslim.
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