Possible California ballot iniative to raise the minimum wage to $10, then $12

[Admiral Yi]

Why is it an either or?  Surely the employers can be dickheads while a shrinking percentage of the workforce earns the minimum wage?

You're right.  What I should have said is that any dickishness is irrelevant.

[Razgovory]

It's not obvious how a general wage floor is a matter of interstate commerce.

The federal government has the power to regulate interstate commerce and international commerce.  This in effect allows the federal government to regulate all commerce in the US and pretty much all aspects of commerce.  "Commerce" is equated with economic activity which wages fall under.

I don't have a problem with "commerce". What I find a bit odd here is "interstate commerce".

Goes between different US states.  That's what allows the feds to get their foot in the door.  If it was just intrastate commerce it fall under the powers of the states themselves.  Since a businesses tend to operate over state lines and do business with people outside the state it all falls under the interstate commerce.

[The Brain]

It's not obvious how a general wage floor is a matter of interstate commerce.

The federal government has the power to regulate interstate commerce and international commerce.  This in effect allows the federal government to regulate all commerce in the US and pretty much all aspects of commerce.  "Commerce" is equated with economic activity which wages fall under.

I don't have a problem with "commerce". What I find a bit odd here is "interstate commerce".

Goes between different US states.  That's what allows the feds to get their foot in the door.  If it was just intrastate commerce it fall under the powers of the states themselves.  Since a businesses tend to operate over state lines and do business with people outside the state it all falls under the interstate commerce.

Looks odd to an outsider. How many burgers are flipped across state lines? Rhetorical.

[sbr]

It's not obvious how a general wage floor is a matter of interstate commerce.

The federal government has the power to regulate interstate commerce and international commerce.  This in effect allows the federal government to regulate all commerce in the US and pretty much all aspects of commerce.  "Commerce" is equated with economic activity which wages fall under.

I don't have a problem with "commerce". What I find a bit odd here is "interstate commerce".

Goes between different US states.  That's what allows the feds to get their foot in the door.  If it was just intrastate commerce it fall under the powers of the states themselves.  Since a businesses tend to operate over state lines and do business with people outside the state it all falls under the interstate commerce.

Looks odd to an outsider. How many burgers are flipped across state lines? Rhetorical.

The guy flipping the burger is in one state and the guy who pays him is in another*.

No not the customer, the owner of the business. 

[Ideologue]

Basically all commerce is interstate commerce.  I forget the term of art, but commerce that may appear local at first blush impacts commerce on an interstate scale.

[Admiral Yi]

"Supply and demand" is exactly coextensive with "employer shittiness and labor power."  Supply = employer shittiness and demand = labor power.

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

[Ideologue]

In a more negative vein basically the same as you: dickishness is irrelevant.

[Siege]

[Siege]

[Neil]

Why can't Americans be both stupid and patriotic?

[Darth Wagtaros]

True. They are a turnoff.

[Grey Fox]

That's not true. There's good money in porn.

[Eddie Teach]

Yeah, but even porn stars usually don't have face tattoos.

[CountDeMoney]

And since porn doesn't even pay minimum wage anyway, this discussion is moot.

[Grey Fox]

Yes, she can be original.

Guys only have rock star & tattoo artists as option.