EU Canada unification thread

[HVC]

A naming competition-what could possibly go wrong 

I've got it! NATO will be available soon. Just change ot to North Atlantic Trade Organization. Think of all the money they'll save on stationary

[Jacob]

A naming competition-what could possibly go wrong 

I've got it! NATO will be available soon. Just change ot to North Atlantic Trade Organization. Think of all the money they'll save on stationary

Perfect!

[crazy canuck]

A naming competition-what could possibly go wrong 

I've got it! NATO will be available soon. Just change ot to North Atlantic Trade Organization. Think of all the money they'll save on stationary

Great!

[crazy canuck]

From the Globe

German utility Uniper is exploring a potential deal that would strengthen the planned Ksi Lisims LNG project in British Columbia, as European interest grows in Canadian liquefied natural gas.

Uniper and Ksi Lisims said on Monday that they have signed a "letter of interest" detailing commercial terms for a pending supply and purchase agreement for two million tonnes a year of LNG.

Dusseldorf-based Uniper is seeking to increase its flexibility to schedule shipments of LNG globally.

Some background to this story, LNG plants in British Columbia for obvious geographical reasons were all targeting Asia as the market. The fact that we are becoming oriented towards Europe is a significant development.

[crazy canuck]

The Canadian government is in negotiations to buy about 30 Italian-made fighter-jet training aircraft and is sending a technical team to Rome later this week to discuss what may be one of Ottawa's biggest aerospace defence orders ever, two sources say.

Any deal would almost certainly be a government-to-government sale, as opposed to a company-to-government one, the industry and government sources added. The M-346 trainer jets are made by Leonardo SpA, the Italian defence giant whose shares are listed on the Milan stock exchange. But the Italian state owns 30 per cent of Leonardo, giving Rome enormous influence over the company's management and export sales.

[garbon]

Canada is now eligible to participate in Eurovision.

[HVC]

Just change the name to "planets got talent" already.

[crazy canuck]

It's being reported the Canada is about to announce that Germany is these successful, bidder for the submarine purchase.

Here are some passages from an opinion piece in the globe explaining why Germany was the successful bidder.  It's all about integration of Canada into the EU.

the strength of Germany's TKMS bid is technology transfer and integration into European defence networks. The German proposal would see the first submarines built in Europe, before transitioning to a complete local Canadian build for the later vessels. The bid aligns with Canada's growing engagement with European defence initiatives, including its participation in the European Union's Security Action for Europe (SAFE) $240-billion defence financing program supporting joint procurement and industrial co-operation. As the only non-EU participant in the initiative, Canada is uniquely positioned to deepen defence-industrial ties with Europe.

The decision to choose the German submarines has long-term strategic implications for Canada. Germany is one of Canada's closest partners within NATO, and TKMS submarines already form the backbone of European naval fleets. Choosing the German bid allows Canada access to European defence and industrial networks at a time when the continent is investing in its own security capabilities. Selecting TKMS means long-term co-operation and technology transfer between Canada and European partners across the Atlantic and the Arctic.

[Jacob]

Seems reasonable to me.

[grumbler]

The problem is the build queue.  I've seen nothing that indicates that the German company is increasing their building capability, and they already have a full slate for the next 15 years or so.

[crazy canuck]

The problem is the build queue.  I've seen nothing that indicates that the German company is increasing their building capability, and they already have a full slate for the next 15 years or so.

The reason you've not seen that is because that's not the plan. One of the reasons the Germans were selected is because they are proposing a technological transfer.  The initial submarines will be built in Germany, but the balance of them will be built in Canada using the German tech.


One step closer to European integration.  And definitely one step further away from the Americans.

[Sophie Scholl]

A naming competition-what could possibly go wrong 

NATOy McNATOface?

[crazy canuck]

A naming competition-what could possibly go wrong 

NATOy McNATOface?

Exactly

[HVC]

A naming competition-what could possibly go wrong 

NATOy McNATOface?

Switch it up, NATOy O'NATOface

[grumbler]

The problem is the build queue.  I've seen nothing that indicates that the German company is increasing their building capability, and they already have a full slate for the next 15 years or so.

The reason you've not seen that is because that's not the plan. One of the reasons the Germans were selected is because they are proposing a technological transfer.  The initial submarines will be built in Germany, but the balance of them will be built in Canada using the German tech.

Do you have a source for that? One of the big arguments in favor of the Korean bid was that they, unlike the Germans, would build in Canada. The news reports I have seen indicate that the Germans and Dutch will give up four building slots so that Canada can get their first sub by 2036, but that delivery of the 12th will be 2050 at the very earliest.

One step closer to European integration.  And definitely one step further away from the Americans.

This isn't a step away from the Americans because the US wasn't ever in the running. It's a step away from South Korea.