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Started by Syt, January 09, 2021, 07:46:24 AM

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The Minsky Moment

The Clintons were a bluff that failed.  Trump & Co hoped that the Clintons would defy it and that Democrats in the House would rally behind the Clintons and support obstruction of an obviously political subpoena, thus setting precedent for others to defy such subpoenasin the future.  Some old-line Dems fell right into the trap, but others broke ranks and joined the threat of contempt sanctions (the right thing to do to preserve the House's prerogative), and the Clintons conceded the point.  Now, the Republicans are stuck with a deposition that they never really wanted to take.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 08:10:38 AMHillary was a distraction. Bill was a sexual predator and should actually be investigated.
I agree - I think I have changed my mind and view on Bill Clinton quite profoundly over the last decade or so.

Having said that I think there are many people in America's elites who frankly seem to be deserving of investigation. I'm not sure this is the right type of investigation - from what I can see some of it should be criminal. And I think that it is Congressional hearings is almost already conceding the point that there won'tbe criminal investigations or accountability it will be straight to the parliamentary theatre stage of investigation (which, to be clear, I think can and does serve its own purpose).
Let's bomb Russia!

Valmy

Quote from: garbon on Today at 06:01:52 AMOdd the GOP thinks that the Clintons will provide a good distraction. Can anyone get that lathered up about those now distant political figures?

Their base still hates them. Well the old ones.

I was opposed to Bill when he was President but I frequently got screamed at, mouth frothing and in full rage, by Republicans because I didn't oppose him sufficiently. Like I thought he was only a creep and unfit to be President and not the most evil corrupt man in all of human history like I should.

But yeah. Lock them up, nobody cares.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 10:28:16 AMThe Clintons were a bluff that failed.  Trump & Co hoped that the Clintons would defy it and that Democrats in the House would rally behind the Clintons and support obstruction of an obviously political subpoena, thus setting precedent for others to defy such subpoenasin the future.  Some old-line Dems fell right into the trap, but others broke ranks and joined the threat of contempt sanctions (the right thing to do to preserve the House's prerogative), and the Clintons conceded the point.  Now, the Republicans are stuck with a deposition that they never really wanted to take.

The precedent will do us no good if Trump never leaves office.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 10:28:16 AMThe Clintons were a bluff that failed.  Trump & Co hoped that the Clintons would defy it and that Democrats in the House would rally behind the Clintons and support obstruction of an obviously political subpoena, thus setting precedent for others to defy such subpoenasin the future.  Some old-line Dems fell right into the trap, but others broke ranks and joined the threat of contempt sanctions (the right thing to do to preserve the House's prerogative), and the Clintons conceded the point.  Now, the Republicans are stuck with a deposition that they never really wanted to take.

The precedent will do us no good if Trump never leaves office.

He will die.
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HVC

Quote from: garbon on Today at 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 10:28:16 AMThe Clintons were a bluff that failed.  Trump & Co hoped that the Clintons would defy it and that Democrats in the House would rally behind the Clintons and support obstruction of an obviously political subpoena, thus setting precedent for others to defy such subpoenasin the future.  Some old-line Dems fell right into the trap, but others broke ranks and joined the threat of contempt sanctions (the right thing to do to preserve the House's prerogative), and the Clintons conceded the point.  Now, the Republicans are stuck with a deposition that they never really wanted to take.

The precedent will do us no good if Trump never leaves office.

He will die.

AI and holograms. The future is now. Or I guess his dumb kids.
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